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Abq TRACON controller reported pilot confusion on how high too climb on a 'climb via SID'; except maintain a specific altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1607667 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201901 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ABQ.TRACON |
| State Reference | NM |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | SID GRZZZ3 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Departure |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Undershoot Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Aircraft X checked onto departure and were instructed to 'climb via SID' which was a GRZZZ3 departure. Aircraft X reaching 9000 ft questioned which altitude they were to climb to. Departure replied 'top altitude FL200' and aircraft X continued their climb to FL200. Pilots questioning the phraseology of 'climb via SID' has been an ongoing problem at abq because of clearance delivery assigning 'climb via SID; except maintain 90' and pilots confused over 'climb via SID's' instructions. Aircraft on clearance should be instructed to 'climb via SID' with no altitude restrictions; and if approach needs an altitude restriction this will be given upon aircraft check in. -Or- all pilots need to be on the same page that when departure clears an aircraft to 'climb via SID' this deletes the clearance delivery restriction previously given.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ABQ TRACON Controller reported pilot confusion on how high too climb on a 'Climb via SID'; except maintain a specific altitude.
Narrative: Aircraft X checked onto departure and were instructed to 'Climb via SID' which was a GRZZZ3 Departure. Aircraft X reaching 9000 FT questioned which altitude they were to climb to. Departure replied 'Top altitude FL200' and Aircraft X continued their climb to FL200. Pilots questioning the phraseology of 'Climb via SID' has been an ongoing problem at ABQ because of Clearance Delivery assigning 'Climb via SID; except maintain 90' and pilots confused over 'Climb via SID's' instructions. Aircraft on clearance should be instructed to 'Climb via SID' with no altitude restrictions; and if Approach needs an altitude restriction this will be given upon aircraft check in. -OR- All pilots need to be on the same page that when departure clears an aircraft to 'Climb via SID' this deletes the clearance delivery restriction previously given.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.