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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 158725 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199010 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bur |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2200 msl bound upper : 12500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : bur |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 2850 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 158725 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departed burbank on IFR flight plan to reno, north. Assigned altitude was 10000'. While VFR in climb out, requested '...climb to VFR on top at 12500'.' controller asked if I was VFR on top now. Since the reported ceiling above me appeared thin or nonexistent along my projected climb path, I replied 'affirm.' conditions on top at 12500'. Shortly thereafter I entered IFR conditions for a brief period. Realizing that IMC conditions are difficult to discern at night until they are actually encountered, I should not have told the controller I could climb in VFR conditions to 12500' until I was definitely above the reported layer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX FRT PLT REQUESTS CLIMB TO VFR ON TOP AT 12500, BUT ENCOUNTERS IMC WHILE ON THE WAY UP.
Narrative: DEPARTED BURBANK ON IFR FLT PLAN TO RENO, N. ASSIGNED ALT WAS 10000'. WHILE VFR IN CLBOUT, REQUESTED '...CLB TO VFR ON TOP AT 12500'.' CTLR ASKED IF I WAS VFR ON TOP NOW. SINCE THE RPTED CEILING ABOVE ME APPEARED THIN OR NONEXISTENT ALONG MY PROJECTED CLB PATH, I REPLIED 'AFFIRM.' CONDITIONS ON TOP AT 12500'. SHORTLY THEREAFTER I ENTERED IFR CONDITIONS FOR A BRIEF PERIOD. REALIZING THAT IMC CONDITIONS ARE DIFFICULT TO DISCERN AT NIGHT UNTIL THEY ARE ACTUALLY ENCOUNTERED, I SHOULD NOT HAVE TOLD THE CTLR I COULD CLB IN VFR CONDITIONS TO 12500' UNTIL I WAS DEFINITELY ABOVE THE RPTED LAYER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.