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Commuter captain expresses concern over baggage count and loading procedure cargo passengers at a terminal and cites cause as improper or inadequate training policy used by air carrier.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 152146 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199007 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : isp |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 152146 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Apparent confusion on ramp departing isp to phl prompted a check of baggage in phl. We had # of bags checked twice in isp. Third # we received in isp was 19. Final count phl 23. Baggage people poorly trained as to critical nature of loading. Have no knowledge that a carry-on which is rejected from cabin becomes a bag and must be counted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER CAPT EXPRESSES CONCERN OVER BAGGAGE COUNT AND LOADING PROC CARGO PASSENGERS AT A TERMINAL AND CITES CAUSE AS IMPROPER OR INADEQUATE TRAINING POLICY USED BY ACR.
Narrative: APPARENT CONFUSION ON RAMP DEPARTING ISP TO PHL PROMPTED A CHK OF BAGGAGE IN PHL. WE HAD # OF BAGS CHKED TWICE IN ISP. THIRD # WE RECEIVED IN ISP WAS 19. FINAL COUNT PHL 23. BAGGAGE PEOPLE POORLY TRAINED AS TO CRITICAL NATURE OF LOADING. HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE THAT A CARRY-ON WHICH IS REJECTED FROM CABIN BECOMES A BAG AND MUST BE COUNTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.