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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 149892 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199007 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 149892 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | other Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While awaiting departure at dfw, we were the first of 3 aircraft holding short of runway 17R. Several large turbojets were also departing. The tower cleared all 3 of our company aircraft to 'cross 17R and hold short of runway 17L for departure; caution, wake turbulence on the departing widebody transport.' I started to taxi across the runway. There was not any aircraft on the runway. I assumed this was an error on the controller's part. The clearance was read back to cross the runway. I looked left toward the departure end. As I looked to the right I saw a widebody transport slightly behind us. He already had a takeoff clearance! He began his roll and caused quite a bit of turbulence, to the point that I was somewhat worried for my life. This widebody transport must have received his takeoff clearance well before the controller told us to cross. An aircraft took off before we crossed; that was the aircraft I assumed he was talking about. After crossing, mass confusion erupted. The controller was inexperienced and making several mistakes. I learned a good lesson: don't depend on anyone but yourself!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TAXIING ACFT EXPERIENCED EXTREME JET BLASE ENCOUNTER FROM A DEPARTING WDB.
Narrative: WHILE AWAITING DEP AT DFW, WE WERE THE FIRST OF 3 ACFT HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 17R. SEVERAL LARGE TURBOJETS WERE ALSO DEPARTING. THE TWR CLRED ALL 3 OF OUR COMPANY ACFT TO 'CROSS 17R AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 17L FOR DEP; CAUTION, WAKE TURB ON THE DEPARTING WDB.' I STARTED TO TAXI ACROSS THE RWY. THERE WAS NOT ANY ACFT ON THE RWY. I ASSUMED THIS WAS AN ERROR ON THE CTLR'S PART. THE CLRNC WAS READ BACK TO CROSS THE RWY. I LOOKED LEFT TOWARD THE DEP END. AS I LOOKED TO THE RIGHT I SAW A WDB SLIGHTLY BEHIND US. HE ALREADY HAD A TKOF CLRNC! HE BEGAN HIS ROLL AND CAUSED QUITE A BIT OF TURB, TO THE POINT THAT I WAS SOMEWHAT WORRIED FOR MY LIFE. THIS WDB MUST HAVE RECEIVED HIS TKOF CLRNC WELL BEFORE THE CTLR TOLD US TO CROSS. AN ACFT TOOK OFF BEFORE WE CROSSED; THAT WAS THE ACFT I ASSUMED HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. AFTER XING, MASS CONFUSION ERUPTED. THE CTLR WAS INEXPERIENCED AND MAKING SEVERAL MISTAKES. I LEARNED A GOOD LESSON: DON'T DEPEND ON ANYONE BUT YOURSELF!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.