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Pbi TRACON controller and a GA pilot reported miscommunication; which resulted in the aircraft descending below the minimum vectoring altitude.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1488289 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201710 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PBI.TRACON |
| State Reference | FL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga/6X |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach Instructor |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 6 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Single Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Private |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 9 Flight Crew Total 999 Flight Crew Type 100 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
I was conducting training on a radar position. We had aircraft X on a vector of 310 degrees at 2;000 ft. This vector kept the aircraft away from a 2;500 ft MVA (minimum vectoring altitude) to the west but would have been too close to the final approach course at sua. The trainee turned aircraft X to a heading of 290 degrees; but failed to recognize the MVA and the aircraft busted the MVA.as an instructor it is my responsibility to take over when I see a developing situation and the trainee has not acted on it. I saw the situation; but did not take over when I should have. In the future I will not allow the trainee to get into a situation that he may not be aware of. I will fix it and then debrief after the session about it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PBI TRACON Controller and a GA pilot reported miscommunication; which resulted in the aircraft descending below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude.
Narrative: I was conducting training on a radar position. We had Aircraft X on a vector of 310 degrees at 2;000 ft. This vector kept the aircraft away from a 2;500 ft MVA (Minimum Vectoring Altitude) to the west but would have been too close to the final approach course at SUA. The trainee turned Aircraft X to a heading of 290 degrees; but failed to recognize the MVA and the aircraft busted the MVA.As an Instructor it is my responsibility to take over when I see a developing situation and the trainee has not acted on it. I saw the situation; but did not take over when I should have. In the future I will not allow the trainee to get into a situation that he may not be aware of. I will fix it and then debrief after the session about it.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.