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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1485663 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201710 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Route In Use | Direct |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Single Pilot |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 40 Flight Crew Total 12000 Flight Crew Type 9000 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
I was talking to ZZZ tower and they said I was barely in the tfr at [the stadium]. I told them there was no tfr because the stadium seating capacity was [less than 30;000]. For the tfr to be in effect; the stadium must hold 30;000 or more. I told [tower] that I had an email from the FAA to confirm there is no tfr. I flew more to the south to make the controller happy. According to my GPS; I was less than 1/4 mile in the tfr circle. There is still ongoing debates with the [sports teams]; TRACON and the FAA whether or not there was a tfr or not. If you read the fdc/NOTAM; it's very clear that the tfr was not in effect because of the seating capacity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Banner towing pilot reported adjusting flight course to remain clear of ambiguous ATC warning of possible TFR penetration.
Narrative: I was talking to ZZZ Tower and they said I was barely in the TFR at [the stadium]. I told them there was no TFR because the Stadium seating capacity was [less than 30;000]. For the TFR to be in effect; the stadium must hold 30;000 or more. I told [Tower] that I had an email from the FAA to confirm there is no TFR. I flew more to the South to make the controller happy. According to my GPS; I was less than 1/4 mile in the TFR circle. There is still ongoing debates with the [sports teams]; TRACON and the FAA whether or not there was a TFR or not. If you read the FDC/NOTAM; it's very clear that the TFR was not in effect because of the seating capacity.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.