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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1472504 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201708 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | F11.TRACON |
| State Reference | FL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 17.0 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
I descended an aircraft to 2700 feet. There is an obstruction at 2900 feet but at his rate of descent I always easily clear that antenna. The pilot asked if he was getting down to get under weather and I said no; it was to get under arrivals. Next thing I know he is below the minimum vectoring altitude. I issued 2900 feet but he did not acknowledge. His rate of descent was extremely unusual and unexpected. I think he was hurrying down on his own in hopes of turning toward the airport. I told him I could not turn that close on an instrument approach so he went the long way. I think it would help if pilots told us they were doing a non standard rate of descent. I think I will never anticipate a standard rate again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air Traffic Controller reported descending an aircraft to an altitude below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude.
Narrative: I descended an aircraft to 2700 feet. There is an obstruction at 2900 feet but at his rate of descent I always easily clear that antenna. The pilot asked if he was getting down to get under weather and I said no; it was to get under arrivals. Next thing I know he is below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude. I issued 2900 feet but he did not acknowledge. His rate of descent was extremely unusual and unexpected. I think he was hurrying down on his own in hopes of turning toward the airport. I told him I could not turn that close on an instrument approach so he went the long way. I think it would help if pilots told us they were doing a non standard rate of descent. I think I will never anticipate a standard rate again.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.