Narrative:

Instrument training flight where ILS, VOR and NDB apches were to be practiced, an in-flight near collision occurred at the final approach fix. Inbound, after entering the holding pattern as published at 5500' MSL and reporting our position and intentions on unicom frequency 122.7 we learned that the only other aircraft reporting in that area had turned inbound to the VOR at 3500' MSL. We then announced our intentions that we would descend in holding and begin the ILS DME runway 05 approach at casa grande and reported leaving 5500' VOR outbnd. About 4 mins later we passed the VOR at 3500' and reported our position on 122.7. At roxie intersection and 3200' MSL we were descending on the glide path when I sighted a mdt aircraft at 12 O'clock and 1/2 mi proceeding outbnd to the VOR at what appeared to be 3500' MSL or lower. At this time I pushed the nose over to gain greater sep and heard the mdt call unicom and ask if he could use the VOR for several practice instrument apches. The aircraft was on a FAA check ride with local accident prevention specialist. I flew over to scottsdale airport and spoke with the FAA people there and they told me 'the inspector giving a check ride and was no way responsible'. My question is if the FAA is concerned about safety why don't they practice it? There are standard procedures in the aim to be followed and unless they are adhered to we can not operate safely uncontrolled while practicing instrument apches. If the word does not get out to every one using this service it is only meritable that there will be an accident near the casa grande airport while attempting to separate each other. One would think the last aircraft operating out there unsafely would be one in which the local FAA aps was on board. Please help us. We are a large school of 20 smts and 40 smas aircraft training foreign air carrier X, foreign air carrier Y and foreign air carrier Z and want to fly in safe skies around the southern az area. This matter needs attention.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CLOSE PROX GA-SMT GA-MDT BOTH DOING PRACTICE FR APCHS NEAR CZG.

Narrative: INSTRUMENT TRNING FLT WHERE ILS, VOR AND NDB APCHES WERE TO BE PRACTICED, AN INFLT NEAR COLLISION OCCURRED AT THE FINAL APCH FIX. INBND, AFTER ENTERING THE HOLDING PATTERN AS PUBLISHED AT 5500' MSL AND RPTING OUR POS AND INTENTIONS ON UNICOM FREQ 122.7 WE LEARNED THAT THE ONLY OTHER ACFT RPTING IN THAT AREA HAD TURNED INBND TO THE VOR AT 3500' MSL. WE THEN ANNOUNCED OUR INTENTIONS THAT WE WOULD DSND IN HOLDING AND BEGIN THE ILS DME RWY 05 APCH AT CASA GRANDE AND RPTED LEAVING 5500' VOR OUTBND. ABOUT 4 MINS LATER WE PASSED THE VOR AT 3500' AND RPTED OUR POS ON 122.7. AT ROXIE INTXN AND 3200' MSL WE WERE DSNDING ON THE GLIDE PATH WHEN I SIGHTED A MDT ACFT AT 12 O'CLOCK AND 1/2 MI PROCEEDING OUTBND TO THE VOR AT WHAT APPEARED TO BE 3500' MSL OR LOWER. AT THIS TIME I PUSHED THE NOSE OVER TO GAIN GREATER SEP AND HEARD THE MDT CALL UNICOM AND ASK IF HE COULD USE THE VOR FOR SEVERAL PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APCHES. THE ACFT WAS ON A FAA CHK RIDE WITH LCL ACCIDENT PREVENTION SPECIALIST. I FLEW OVER TO SCOTTSDALE ARPT AND SPOKE WITH THE FAA PEOPLE THERE AND THEY TOLD ME 'THE INSPECTOR GIVING A CHK RIDE AND WAS NO WAY RESPONSIBLE'. MY QUESTION IS IF THE FAA IS CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY WHY DON'T THEY PRACTICE IT? THERE ARE STANDARD PROCS IN THE AIM TO BE FOLLOWED AND UNLESS THEY ARE ADHERED TO WE CAN NOT OPERATE SAFELY UNCTLED WHILE PRACTICING INSTRUMENT APCHES. IF THE WORD DOES NOT GET OUT TO EVERY ONE USING THIS SVC IT IS ONLY MERITABLE THAT THERE WILL BE AN ACCIDENT NEAR THE CASA GRANDE ARPT WHILE ATTEMPTING TO SEPARATE EACH OTHER. ONE WOULD THINK THE LAST ACFT OPERATING OUT THERE UNSAFELY WOULD BE ONE IN WHICH THE LCL FAA APS WAS ON BOARD. PLEASE HELP US. WE ARE A LARGE SCHOOL OF 20 SMTS AND 40 SMAS ACFT TRNING FOREIGN ACR X, FOREIGN ACR Y AND FOREIGN ACR Z AND WANT TO FLY IN SAFE SKIES AROUND THE SOUTHERN AZ AREA. THIS MATTER NEEDS ATTN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.