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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 145594 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199005 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3700 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sna tower : sna |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 145594 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I took off VFR from sna. The clearance was received on the ground and read back to maintain VFR at or below 3000'. Climbing out from runway 19R I was asked by the tower, 'confirm you are flying the musel 5 departure.' I replied, 'negative.' she then said, 'turn left, heading 175 degrees, contact departure.' I DOD so and started looking in the commercial kit for the departure. The aircraft was light, and by the time I retrieved the departure plate, I had already climbed through 3000', closer to 4000'. The controller asked my altitude and advised me of the situation. I asked if he wanted me back to 3000', but he said no, I could continue to 4500'. Although basically I should not have climbed above 3000', I believe there was some confusion with the controllers re: my routing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALT DEVIATION.
Narrative: I TOOK OFF VFR FROM SNA. THE CLRNC WAS RECEIVED ON THE GND AND READ BACK TO MAINTAIN VFR AT OR BELOW 3000'. CLBING OUT FROM RWY 19R I WAS ASKED BY THE TWR, 'CONFIRM YOU ARE FLYING THE MUSEL 5 DEP.' I REPLIED, 'NEGATIVE.' SHE THEN SAID, 'TURN LEFT, HDG 175 DEGS, CONTACT DEP.' I DOD SO AND STARTED LOOKING IN THE COMMERCIAL KIT FOR THE DEP. THE ACFT WAS LIGHT, AND BY THE TIME I RETRIEVED THE DEP PLATE, I HAD ALREADY CLBED THROUGH 3000', CLOSER TO 4000'. THE CTLR ASKED MY ALT AND ADVISED ME OF THE SITUATION. I ASKED IF HE WANTED ME BACK TO 3000', BUT HE SAID NO, I COULD CONTINUE TO 4500'. ALTHOUGH BASICALLY I SHOULD NOT HAVE CLBED ABOVE 3000', I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH THE CTLRS RE: MY ROUTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.