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Pilot of small aircraft may have entered TCA or flown within 30 miles of atl without transponder, non communication with approach controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 143333 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199004 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : atl airport : pdk |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 300 msl bound upper : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl tracon : fai |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 143339 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I asked the owner if they had mode C on this aircraft. Their response was no, why did I need mode C. I said I was going to fly under the TCA to pdk in greater atlanta. They said I did not need mode C, and that an extension had been granted until later this yr. I called macon FSS, got WX, and filed VFR. I made the flight in good faith, speaking to atl 119.3 only briefly. They were too busy, so I just spoke to pdk. Days later I tried to rent an aircraft to fly a friend from pdk around atlanta. Then I was informed I needed mode C. I called atl FSDO operations. This operations inspector refused to answer and gave me the # to atl tower. Atl tower said I needed mode C. We (macon FSS supervisor and I) discussed further. He said this is in the aim.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF SMA MAY HAVE ENTERED TCA OR FLOWN WITHIN 30 MILES OF ATL WITHOUT TRANSPONDER, NON COM WITH APCH CTLR.
Narrative: I ASKED THE OWNER IF THEY HAD MODE C ON THIS ACFT. THEIR RESPONSE WAS NO, WHY DID I NEED MODE C. I SAID I WAS GOING TO FLY UNDER THE TCA TO PDK IN GREATER ATLANTA. THEY SAID I DID NOT NEED MODE C, AND THAT AN EXTENSION HAD BEEN GRANTED UNTIL LATER THIS YR. I CALLED MACON FSS, GOT WX, AND FILED VFR. I MADE THE FLT IN GOOD FAITH, SPEAKING TO ATL 119.3 ONLY BRIEFLY. THEY WERE TOO BUSY, SO I JUST SPOKE TO PDK. DAYS LATER I TRIED TO RENT AN ACFT TO FLY A FRIEND FROM PDK AROUND ATLANTA. THEN I WAS INFORMED I NEEDED MODE C. I CALLED ATL FSDO OPS. THIS OPS INSPECTOR REFUSED TO ANSWER AND GAVE ME THE # TO ATL TWR. ATL TWR SAID I NEEDED MODE C. WE (MACON FSS SUPVR AND I) DISCUSSED FURTHER. HE SAID THIS IS IN THE AIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.