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Sct TRACON controller reported concern related to a new departure/arrival separation procedure between hhr and lax properly.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1409552 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201612 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | SCT.TRACON |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 6 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
For the last 20 plus years hhr departures and lax arrivals were considered a safe event. But recently we were briefed that we can't run hhr departures and lax arrivals at the same time when it's IFR. There was a hole on the arrival final and I was of the understanding that we can release the hhr departure when the last lax arrival is abeam the airport. I called the tower and they said the departure was holding short so I released him a little early assuming he would take the runway when the arrival was abeam the airport. Go back to the old procedures there is nothing unsafe about this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SCT TRACON Controller reported concern related to a new departure/arrival separation procedure between HHR and LAX properly.
Narrative: For the last 20 plus years HHR departures and LAX arrivals were considered a safe event. But recently we were briefed that we can't run HHR departures and LAX arrivals at the same time when it's IFR. There was a hole on the arrival final and I was of the understanding that we can release the HHR departure when the last LAX arrival is abeam the airport. I called the Tower and they said the departure was holding short so I released him a little early assuming he would take the runway when the arrival was abeam the airport. Go back to the old procedures there is nothing unsafe about this.
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