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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1406185 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201612 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | Engine Air Indications |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Aircraft Equipment Problem Less Severe Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Just started our descent into ZZZ. Got engine 2 air system fault. Had put the #2 thrust lever to idle; per the ECAM. Ran com. Message persisted so we declared and landed with 2 engine at idle. The engineer that the captain spoke with on the phone after the event; made it sound like we could have used the engine? The operations manual (OM) procedure just sorta left us hanging. Didn't say we could try the engine; use the engine or shut down the engine. Or to land as soon as possible. I think there needs to be another action step maybe? If message persists or not... If the engine was fine; would have been nice to have. They ended up just deferring the issue; but didn't actually do anything physically to the engine to fix. Just a paperwork deferral. So that leads me to believe we just added risk to our approach and landing for no reason? Maybe the OM procedure is fine. But a little more info in the OM; in the moment; would have been helpful to me. Recommend looking at it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 flight crew reported receiving an 'ENG 2 AIR SYS FAULT' on ECAM during descent. The published procedure did not provide sufficient information; so the crew landed with the engine at idle thrust.
Narrative: Just started our descent into ZZZ. Got ENG 2 AIR SYS Fault. Had put the #2 thrust lever to idle; per the ECAM. Ran com. Message persisted so we declared and landed with 2 engine at idle. The engineer that the captain spoke with on the phone after the event; made it sound like we could have used the engine? The Operations Manual (OM) procedure just sorta left us hanging. Didn't say we could try the engine; use the engine or shut down the engine. Or to land As Soon As Possible. I think there needs to be another action step maybe? If message persists or not... If the engine was fine; would have been nice to have. They ended up just deferring the issue; but didn't actually do anything physically to the engine to fix. Just a paperwork deferral. So that leads me to believe we just added risk to our approach and landing for no reason? Maybe the OM procedure is fine. But a little more info in the OM; in the moment; would have been helpful to me. Recommend looking at it.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.