New first officer on air carrier medium large transport creates an altitude deviation while captain ...

Attributes
ACN	140324
Time
Date	199003
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : zob
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 12000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zob tracon : dtw
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other descent other
Route In Use	arrival other enroute other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 10000
ASRS Report	140324
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

While flying inbound to dtw airport I told the copilot I was going off of #1 radio to get the ATIS. We were cleared to cross milar intersection at 12000', 250 KTS. When I came back on line from getting ATIS, I noticed we were descending to 10000' and it was set in the altitude alerter. I questioned the copilot about this and he said, 'I thought you just didn't set the altitude in the alerter correctly.' needless to say, I immediately told ZOB we were at 10000' and was that correct. He told me to climb to 11000' and switch to approach. I did and nothing more was said. I called approach when I got on the ground and they said there wasn't any conflict reported. New coplts should be watched carefully, no matter what stage of flight. Lesson learned.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NEW FO ON ACR MLG CREATES AN ALT DEVIATION WHILE CAPT IS LISTENING TO ATIS.

Narrative: WHILE FLYING INBND TO DTW ARPT I TOLD THE COPLT I WAS GOING OFF OF #1 RADIO TO GET THE ATIS. WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS MILAR INTXN AT 12000', 250 KTS. WHEN I CAME BACK ON LINE FROM GETTING ATIS, I NOTICED WE WERE DSNDING TO 10000' AND IT WAS SET IN THE ALT ALERTER. I QUESTIONED THE COPLT ABOUT THIS AND HE SAID, 'I THOUGHT YOU JUST DIDN'T SET THE ALT IN THE ALERTER CORRECTLY.' NEEDLESS TO SAY, I IMMEDIATELY TOLD ZOB WE WERE AT 10000' AND WAS THAT CORRECT. HE TOLD ME TO CLB TO 11000' AND SWITCH TO APCH. I DID AND NOTHING MORE WAS SAID. I CALLED APCH WHEN I GOT ON THE GND AND THEY SAID THERE WASN'T ANY CONFLICT RPTED. NEW COPLTS SHOULD BE WATCHED CAREFULLY, NO MATTER WHAT STAGE OF FLT. LESSON LEARNED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

New first officer on air carrier medium large transport creates an altitude deviation while captain is listening to ATIS.