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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1377035 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201608 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ATL.Airport |
| State Reference | GA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter Loss Of Aircraft Control Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
Atlanta tower cleared two boeing 757s for takeoff before we took runway 26L. The second boeing 757 was just lifting off when the controller cleared us for takeoff. I definitely had reservations about accepting the clearance under these conditions; but I remembered that the FAA had these new recat rules for wake turbulence and ATC [is] now allowed to disregard B757's wake under certain conditions. I also remember ATC clearing me for takeoff close in-trail behind a B757 in philadelphia recently and the takeoff occurred without incident (the B757 departed runway heading and we turned to a heading of 230). Remembering these two things; I accepted the takeoff clearance and we rolled down the runway. Shortly after liftoff; we encountered serious wake turbulence with 30+ degree roll upsets to the left and to the right. It was quite violent and I made a report to ATC that we encountered 'serious wake turbulence.'the cause of this was my acceptance of an unsafe takeoff clearance. Additionally; the new recat rules are not safe and should be reevaluated. I am not 100% sure what departure the B757 was on; but each atl departure flies the same route initially; there is no diverging course until the middle marker. This is a serious problem when you roll two B757s in succession and then put a [smaller twin engine jet] behind them with standard same-runway-separation. I suggest the FAA reevaluate recat; which was a change to the 7110.65; and perhaps go back to the same wake turbulence rules they had before.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Air carrier Captain reported a 'quite violent' wake turbulence encounter on takeoff from ATL in trail of two B757 aircraft.
Narrative: Atlanta Tower cleared two Boeing 757s for takeoff before we took runway 26L. The second Boeing 757 was just lifting off when the Controller cleared us for takeoff. I definitely had reservations about accepting the clearance under these conditions; but I remembered that the FAA had these new RECAT rules for wake turbulence and ATC [is] now allowed to disregard B757's wake under certain conditions. I also remember ATC clearing me for takeoff close in-trail behind a B757 in Philadelphia recently and the takeoff occurred without incident (the B757 departed runway heading and we turned to a heading of 230). Remembering these two things; I accepted the takeoff clearance and we rolled down the runway. Shortly after liftoff; we encountered serious wake turbulence with 30+ degree roll upsets to the left and to the right. It was quite violent and I made a report to ATC that we encountered 'serious wake turbulence.'The cause of this was my acceptance of an unsafe takeoff clearance. Additionally; the new RECAT rules are not safe and should be reevaluated. I am not 100% sure what departure the B757 was on; but each ATL departure flies the same route initially; there is no diverging course until the middle marker. This is a serious problem when you roll two B757s in succession and then put a [smaller twin engine jet] behind them with standard same-runway-separation. I suggest the FAA reevaluate RECAT; which was a change to the 7110.65; and perhaps go back to the same wake turbulence rules they had before.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.