Narrative:

Prior to push back the APU failed. APU was then MEL'd. Both engines were started in the blocks due to APU failure and pneumatic air start of both. As we started the pushback; the first officer was cleaning up the pneumatic start checklist and number 2 bleed fault. We stopped the push and immediately informed mx (maintenance) that the number 2 bleed faulted. We complied with the ECAM instructions and shut off number 2 bleed. With the a/C stopped and parking brake set; I called the dispatcher to inform him of the problem while mx was researching the problem with maintenance control and working the release document process. I confirmed with the first officer (first officer) that there was no associated bleed leak. Mx asked if we had a bleed leak and we told him 'no.' mx then informed us that MEL 36-11-01-a was the applicable MEL. Because there was no associated bleed leak; there was no mx action to be performed; the valve was failed to the closed position. We shut down the number one engine to save fuel and realized we couldn't restart due to the number 2 bleed valve and APU failed. I had mx pull us back into the blocks for another pneumatic start of number 1 engine. We filled out the log and got the release document number as well as the MEL from mx (via maintenance control). After all the paperwork was completed; we started number 1 on pneumatics and then continued the push. MEL is incorrect for being a flagged item if there is no associated bleed air leak. No mx action is required without a bleed air leak.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: Pilots; dispatcher and maintenance controller reported that prior to push-back; an A300 APU failed and was deferred. After starting both engines using an air cart; the #2 engine bleed valve failed closed.

Narrative: Prior to push back the APU failed. APU was then MEL'd. Both engines were started in the Blocks due to APU failure and Pneumatic air start of both. As we started the pushback; the First Officer was cleaning up the Pneumatic start checklist and Number 2 Bleed Fault. We stopped the push and immediately informed MX (Maintenance) that the number 2 Bleed faulted. We complied with the ECAM instructions and shut off Number 2 Bleed. With the A/C stopped and parking brake set; I called the Dispatcher to inform him of the problem while MX was researching the problem with Maintenance Control and working the release document process. I confirmed with the FO (First Officer) that there was no associated Bleed Leak. MX asked if we had a Bleed Leak and we told him 'no.' MX then informed us that MEL 36-11-01-A was the applicable MEL. Because there was no associated Bleed Leak; there was no MX action to be performed; the valve was failed to the closed position. We shut down the number one engine to save fuel and realized we couldn't restart due to the number 2 Bleed valve and APU failed. I had MX pull us back into the Blocks for another pneumatic start of number 1 engine. We filled out the log and got the release document number as well as the MEL from MX (via Maintenance Control). After all the paperwork was completed; we started number 1 on pneumatics and then continued the push. MEL is incorrect for being a Flagged item if there is no associated Bleed Air Leak. No MX action is required without a Bleed Air Leak.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.