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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1355711 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201605 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | P31.TRACON |
| State Reference | FL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | Visual Approach |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | Aero Charts |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 90 Flight Crew Total 1800 Flight Crew Type 750 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Nbj and nfd are two training fields used heavily by joint service military primary flight training based in NAS pensacola and NAS whiting field. On an almost daily basis; GA aircraft transiting the area enroute to pns; jka; cqf and 5r4 fly directly over these military fields below 1500' AGL and directly through the patterns with several active aircraft. Most GA pilots would never do this over a civilian field; but for some reason have no qualms about doing it over these fields; even though they are on the VFR charts. They are both under low class east airspace; yet GA pilots are not using see and avoid or they would not be flying through a pattern occupied by multiple aircraft. Maybe since they don't see an associated VHF CTAF to call for position reports or just plain ignorance; GA pilots seem to think these fields are inactive. In fact they are heavily used on a daily basis and several near mid-airs occur in any given week. Something as simple as adding a note on the chart with the pattern altitudes; a distance to avoid around these fields; or to contact pns ATC for traffic reports on these fields may alleviate some of the problem. If not; something unfortunate will happen.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A military instructor pilot reported NPA and NDZ outlying training airports NBJ and NFD are subject to daily VFR civilian traffic over flights below 1;500 feet without CTAF traffic calls. Both airports are heavily utilized and traffic conflicts occur daily. Better VFR charting notices may help.
Narrative: NBJ and NFD are two training fields used heavily by joint service military primary flight training based in NAS Pensacola and NAS Whiting field. On an almost daily basis; GA aircraft transiting the area enroute to PNS; JKA; CQF and 5R4 fly directly over these military fields below 1500' AGL and directly through the patterns with several active aircraft. Most GA pilots would never do this over a civilian field; but for some reason have no qualms about doing it over these fields; even though they are on the VFR charts. They are both under low Class E airspace; yet GA pilots are not using See and Avoid or they would not be flying through a pattern occupied by multiple aircraft. Maybe since they don't see an associated VHF CTAF to call for position reports or just plain ignorance; GA pilots seem to think these fields are inactive. In fact they are heavily used on a daily basis and several near mid-airs occur in any given week. Something as simple as adding a note on the chart with the pattern altitudes; a distance to avoid around these fields; or to contact PNS ATC for traffic reports on these fields may alleviate some of the problem. If not; something unfortunate will happen.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.