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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 134057 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199001 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sba |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 134057 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 11 flight time total : 118 |
| ASRS Report | 134064 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Pilot #2 accepted clearance so as to ge into the system and have sep and approach procedure during approachs. WX at takeoff, 3500' scattered/5000' scattered, visibility 20 mi. WX during flight record special 3500' broken/5000' overcast, visibility 8 mi. Landing WX special 1500' scattered/3500'/5000' overcast, visibility 6 mi, light rain and fog. Pilot #1 was making a normal approach to runway 25. At the moment the wheels were about to touch he over-corrected, pulling the yoke back and balloon up. He then over-corrected, pushing the nose too far forward, and apparently made ground contact with propeller. At that time I decided to take the control and land the aircraft. It was my feeling at the time, after flying with the man on several occasions, that he is a competent pilot and felt no need to worry about a landing. We discussed the landing before leaving the plane, and I felt confident that he would not have this problem again, and suggested going out with an instrument for a few touch and goes. We then departed the plan and noticed the contact with the propeller. Supplemental information from acn 134064: was a little fast on T/D. Bounced on runway. Over anxious to land plane and rushed landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA BOUNCED THE LNDG, THEN HIT PROPELLER ON RWY DURING RECOVERY.
Narrative: PLT #2 ACCEPTED CLRNC SO AS TO GE INTO THE SYS AND HAVE SEP AND APCH PROC DURING APCHS. WX AT TKOF, 3500' SCATTERED/5000' SCATTERED, VISIBILITY 20 MI. WX DURING FLT RECORD SPECIAL 3500' BROKEN/5000' OVCST, VISIBILITY 8 MI. LNDG WX SPECIAL 1500' SCATTERED/3500'/5000' OVCST, VISIBILITY 6 MI, LIGHT RAIN AND FOG. PLT #1 WAS MAKING A NORMAL APCH TO RWY 25. AT THE MOMENT THE WHEELS WERE ABOUT TO TOUCH HE OVER-CORRECTED, PULLING THE YOKE BACK AND BALLOON UP. HE THEN OVER-CORRECTED, PUSHING THE NOSE TOO FAR FORWARD, AND APPARENTLY MADE GND CONTACT WITH PROP. AT THAT TIME I DECIDED TO TAKE THE CONTROL AND LAND THE ACFT. IT WAS MY FEELING AT THE TIME, AFTER FLYING WITH THE MAN ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS, THAT HE IS A COMPETENT PLT AND FELT NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT A LNDG. WE DISCUSSED THE LNDG BEFORE LEAVING THE PLANE, AND I FELT CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD NOT HAVE THIS PROB AGAIN, AND SUGGESTED GOING OUT WITH AN INSTR FOR A FEW TOUCH AND GOES. WE THEN DEPARTED THE PLAN AND NOTICED THE CONTACT WITH THE PROP. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 134064: WAS A LITTLE FAST ON T/D. BOUNCED ON RWY. OVER ANXIOUS TO LAND PLANE AND RUSHED LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.