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A general aviation pilot reported an airborne conflict with two vintage military aircraft that performed a low approach and break maneuver to a landing without clear coordination with other traffic at a non-towered airport.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1337820 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201603 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | 8A1.Airport |
| State Reference | AL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Route In Use | Visual Approach |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 20 Flight Crew Total 230 Flight Crew Type 120 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
| Miss Distance | Horizontal 2000 Vertical 0 |
Narrative:
While on a left downwind for runway 25 a formation flight of two vintage war planes performed a low approach for runway 25. While the other two airplanes were on about a one mile final I reported them in sight and said I would land after behind them on the low approach. I turned to left base as they flew over the runway. As I turned to about a one and one-half mile final; both planes made a climbing left turn around to what I thought was a left downwind. Instead one plane kept turning around to enter a short final in front of me. I assume that this airplane did not realize I was already on final; even though I had made radio calls for each leg of the pattern.meanwhile the second airplane; which was going to follow; must have seen me and entered a left base instead of turning to final. He was at my altitude on a collision course; probably 2;000 feet to my left. While I was trying to figure out what the airplanes were doing; the second airplane (on left base) radioed and asked if I was landing and if he was going to have to go around. Before I could respond; the first airplane; already on the ground at this point; radioed and said; quote; 'no! Wingman; you do not go around. You land.' at this time; I came on the radio and said I was going around. The second airplane turned to final and descended while I climbed out on final. I flew a normal pattern; came around; and performed a normal touch-and-go landing without incident.all-in-all; this was a miscommunication on both sides. I did not realize that after they performed a low approach that they would immediately climb out to the left and enter a very short final. At the same time; they misunderstood me when I said I would land after they did the low approach. They must have thought I meant that would land after they landed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A general aviation pilot reported an airborne conflict with two vintage military aircraft that performed a low approach and break maneuver to a landing without clear coordination with other traffic at a non-towered airport.
Narrative: While on a left downwind for Runway 25 a formation flight of two vintage war planes performed a low approach for Runway 25. While the other two airplanes were on about a one mile final I reported them in sight and said I would land after behind them on the low approach. I turned to left base as they flew over the runway. As I turned to about a one and one-half mile final; both planes made a climbing left turn around to what I thought was a left downwind. Instead one plane kept turning around to enter a short final in front of me. I assume that this airplane did not realize I was already on final; even though I had made radio calls for each leg of the pattern.Meanwhile the second airplane; which was going to follow; must have seen me and entered a left base instead of turning to final. He was at my altitude on a collision course; probably 2;000 feet to my left. While I was trying to figure out what the airplanes were doing; the second airplane (on left base) radioed and asked if I was landing and if he was going to have to go around. Before I could respond; the first airplane; already on the ground at this point; radioed and said; quote; 'No! Wingman; you do not go around. You land.' At this time; I came on the radio and said I was going around. The second airplane turned to final and descended while I climbed out on final. I flew a normal pattern; came around; and performed a normal touch-and-go landing without incident.All-in-all; this was a miscommunication on both sides. I did not realize that after they performed a low approach that they would immediately climb out to the left and enter a very short final. At the same time; they misunderstood me when I said I would land after they did the low approach. They must have thought I meant that would land after they landed.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.