An antique aircraft with no electrical system was reported by sct TRACON to cno tower as having no t...

Narrative:

On taxing in I was contacted by chino ground to contact la TRACON which I did after securing the aircraft. On the day I was requested to contact TRACON; I was east of kcno over riverside airport (kral) and later south of there over a lake. I was asked if I was in 30 miles of lax 30 mile veil of class B airspace. On occasion I do fly west of kcno chino airport to conduct pleasure flights. This area in question was flown over prior to the request for a phone call. The aircraft in question has no engine-driven electrical system and has never been certified with one. Under far 91.215 part 3 I may conduct flight under the shelf of class B airspace; and within the 30 mile vail of class B airspace. In contacting the TRACON representative; I was informed I needed a transponder to be inside this airspace. I was about to explain that I did not; but he was not in a mood to listen so I did not want to seem argumentative. He also informed me that I needed a waiver to enter the airspace in question; which I do not according to far 91.215 part 3. I would estimate I was 11 NM west of kcno at 2100 MSL and more than 1000 ft. Or greater AGL. I feel the controller was not versed with the fars and not familiar with antique aircraft.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: An antique aircraft with no electrical system was reported by SCT TRACON to CNO Tower as having no transponder within the 30 mile Class B airspace veil. However; no transponder is required per FAR 91.215 (3).

Narrative: On taxing in I was contacted by Chino Ground to contact LA TRACON which I did after securing the aircraft. On the day I was requested to contact TRACON; I was East of KCNO over Riverside airport (KRAL) and later south of there over a lake. I was asked if I was in 30 miles of LAX 30 mile veil of Class B airspace. On occasion I do fly West of KCNO Chino Airport to conduct pleasure flights. This area in question was flown over prior to the request for a phone call. The aircraft in question has no engine-driven electrical system and has never been certified with one. Under FAR 91.215 Part 3 I may conduct flight under the shelf of Class B airspace; and within the 30 mile vail of Class B airspace. In contacting the TRACON representative; I was informed I needed a transponder to be inside this airspace. I was about to explain that I did not; but he was not in a mood to listen so I did not want to seem argumentative. He also informed me that I needed a waiver to enter the airspace in question; which I do not according to FAR 91.215 Part 3. I would estimate I was 11 NM west of KCNO at 2100 MSL and more than 1000 ft. or greater AGL. I feel the controller was not versed with the FARs and not familiar with antique aircraft.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Attributes
ACN	1308402
Time
Date	201510
Local Time Of Day	1201-1800
Place
Locale Reference	CNO.Airport
State Reference	CA
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Cruise
Route In Use	None
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Function	Single Pilot
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 20 Flight Crew Total 10300 Flight Crew Type 250
Events
Anomaly	ATC Issue All Types

An antique aircraft with no electrical system was reported by sct TRACON to cno tower as having no transponder within the 30 mile class B airspace veil. However; no transponder is required per far 91.215 (3).