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Instructor pilot of small aircraft and student landed while preceding aircraft still on runway. Tower had given 3 instructions to go around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 130349 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198912 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pao |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 1200 |
| ASRS Report | 130349 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : student |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was conducting takeoffs/lndgs with student and pattern was extremely busy. I was told to follow aircraft on base in front of us and was cleared to land. Observing aircraft ahead on final, I felt there would be no separation problems. Upon landing I saw the aircraft that was ahead of us was just turning off of runway at the opposite end. Tower told us to contact ground. Ground had us come to the tower. Upon going to the tower supervisor informed me that local controller had issued us 3 go around instructions, which we never heard. In summary: 1) separation was lost when I landed on runway while other aircraft was still on runway. 2) I did not adhere to ATC instructions (go around). I have no explanation as to exactly why this occurred. It is possible (but not probable) that I was too busy with instructing that I did not notice the problem. A more likely (but not definite) explanation could be neither of us saw the aircraft (which we did not) until we were on the ground because of our steep approach angle, and we didn't hear the go around due to a possible intermittent radio problem (which I'm not certain).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT OF SMA AND STUDENT LANDED WHILE PRECEDING ACFT STILL ON RWY. TWR HAD GIVEN 3 INSTRUCTIONS TO GO AROUND.
Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING TKOFS/LNDGS WITH STUDENT AND PATTERN WAS EXTREMELY BUSY. I WAS TOLD TO FOLLOW ACFT ON BASE IN FRONT OF US AND WAS CLRED TO LAND. OBSERVING ACFT AHEAD ON FINAL, I FELT THERE WOULD BE NO SEPARATION PROBLEMS. UPON LNDG I SAW THE ACFT THAT WAS AHEAD OF US WAS JUST TURNING OFF OF RWY AT THE OPPOSITE END. TWR TOLD US TO CONTACT GND. GND HAD US COME TO THE TWR. UPON GOING TO THE TWR SUPVR INFORMED ME THAT LCL CTLR HAD ISSUED US 3 GO AROUND INSTRUCTIONS, WHICH WE NEVER HEARD. IN SUMMARY: 1) SEPARATION WAS LOST WHEN I LANDED ON RWY WHILE OTHER ACFT WAS STILL ON RWY. 2) I DID NOT ADHERE TO ATC INSTRUCTIONS (GO AROUND). I HAVE NO EXPLANATION AS TO EXACTLY WHY THIS OCCURRED. IT IS POSSIBLE (BUT NOT PROBABLE) THAT I WAS TOO BUSY WITH INSTRUCTING THAT I DID NOT NOTICE THE PROBLEM. A MORE LIKELY (BUT NOT DEFINITE) EXPLANATION COULD BE NEITHER OF US SAW THE ACFT (WHICH WE DID NOT) UNTIL WE WERE ON THE GND BECAUSE OF OUR STEEP APCH ANGLE, AND WE DIDN'T HEAR THE GO AROUND DUE TO A POSSIBLE INTERMITTENT RADIO PROBLEM (WHICH I'M NOT CERTAIN).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.