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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1295168 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201509 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | N90.TRACON |
| State Reference | NY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Citationjet (C525/C526) - CJ I / II / III / IV |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | Vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) Flight Crew Multiengine |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 35 Flight Crew Total 4500 Flight Crew Type 70 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
Airspeed of 270 knots was assigned at 13;000 feet (limit is 278 for cj-3) and aircraft behind was slowed to 260 knots as we descended to the airport. Descent was continued. As assigned; to 6;000 feet and I noticed speed still above 250 knots as we went below 10;000 feet. Pilot flying reduced speed at my request; but unclear if clearance intended for us to stay at 270 knots to 6;000 feet. Please clarify if 250 knots is a maximum under 10;000 feet except only in an emergency; or if an assigned speed is valid. We continued to be 'pushed' to keep speed high during final approach! No comments by ATC as we did not ask (confess?). No conflicts; no safety concerns; just seeking clarity.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Aircraft was assigned 270 knots at 13;000 feet and did not reduce to 250 knots below 10;000 feet.
Narrative: Airspeed of 270 knots was assigned at 13;000 feet (limit is 278 for CJ-3) and aircraft behind was slowed to 260 knots as we descended to the Airport. Descent was continued. As assigned; to 6;000 feet and I noticed speed still above 250 knots as we went below 10;000 feet. Pilot flying reduced speed at my request; but unclear if clearance intended for us to stay at 270 knots to 6;000 feet. Please clarify if 250 knots is a maximum under 10;000 feet except only in an emergency; or if an assigned speed is valid. We continued to be 'pushed' to keep speed high during final approach! No comments by ATC as we did not ask (confess?). No conflicts; no safety concerns; just seeking clarity.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.