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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1292463 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201509 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | MD-11 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Weight And Balance Deviation - Procedural MEL Deviation - Procedural Maintenance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Cleared to push; no push crew; so I called ramp. Maintenance gets on freq and says they are working an MEL. First I hear about it. Very long wait; finally they say we will bring the stairs back. They say over radio it is a cargo lock issue in the belly and give an MEL reference. We ask ramp to coordinate with dispatch. I looked up the MEL and when the mechanic came up with the new logbook; I asked if she had confirmed with ramp that the positions were empty as required by the MEL; she said yes. After we are airborne; dispatch sent us an ACARS to the effect that the positions voided and those listed on the paperwork may not match up; and destination ramp will have to investigate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD-11 crew and Dispatcher reported that incorrect information in an MEL created confusion and mistakes on the release and weight and balance.
Narrative: Cleared to push; no push crew; so I called ramp. Maintenance gets on freq and says they are working an MEL. First I hear about it. Very long wait; finally they say we will bring the stairs back. They say over radio it is a cargo lock issue in the belly and give an MEL reference. We ask ramp to coordinate with dispatch. I looked up the MEL and when the mechanic came up with the new logbook; I asked if she had confirmed with ramp that the positions were empty as required by the MEL; she said yes. After we are airborne; dispatch sent us an ACARS to the effect that the positions voided and those listed on the paperwork may not match up; and destination ramp will have to investigate.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.