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Air carrier medium large transport flight crew not supplied with current approach chart by air carrier.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 129070 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198911 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : clt |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1700 |
| ASRS Report | 129070 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Descending into clt on the shine arrival. My charts were updated to the latest revision I had received from my company. The controller advised us, however, that the shine 1 arrival was now current, instead of the shine 9 arrival that we had. We asked him the differences and he told us. Then when over johns, he told us it was a mandatory speed of 250 KTS--that he hadn't told us before. He then said to 'slow down as fast as possible.' we only can revise our books when we get the revisions in our mailbox. I think there should be a transition period for new information, as there are many reasons why our charts may not be right up-to-date the day everything changes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG FLT CREW NOT SUPPLIED WITH CURRENT APCH CHART BY ACR.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO CLT ON THE SHINE ARR. MY CHARTS WERE UPDATED TO THE LATEST REVISION I HAD RECEIVED FROM MY COMPANY. THE CTLR ADVISED US, HOWEVER, THAT THE SHINE 1 ARR WAS NOW CURRENT, INSTEAD OF THE SHINE 9 ARR THAT WE HAD. WE ASKED HIM THE DIFFERENCES AND HE TOLD US. THEN WHEN OVER JOHNS, HE TOLD US IT WAS A MANDATORY SPD OF 250 KTS--THAT HE HADN'T TOLD US BEFORE. HE THEN SAID TO 'SLOW DOWN AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.' WE ONLY CAN REVISE OUR BOOKS WHEN WE GET THE REVISIONS IN OUR MAILBOX. I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A TRANSITION PERIOD FOR NEW INFO, AS THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY OUR CHARTS MAY NOT BE RIGHT UP-TO-DATE THE DAY EVERYTHING CHANGES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.