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ZID controller was working a VFR aircraft at 17;500 feet. While coordinating with a neighboring sector; another controller inquired about the VFR aircraft which was now observed to be at 18;700 feet in the positive control area. Reporter then advised the VFR aircraft that they cannot be in the positive control area and issued a subsequent clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1282060 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201507 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZID.ARTCC |
| State Reference | IN |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft High Wing 1 Eng Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Enroute |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 26.5 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Airspace Violation All Types Deviation - Procedural FAR Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was being worked by me eastbound and checked on VFR. The controller told me (next to me) verbally he was climbing from 16;500 feet to 17;500 feet VFR. I amended the altitude and then when he checked on I told him about precipitation intensities to the southeast and asked about the tops. I made a point out to sector 31 a little bit later and she said 'what is that guy doing?' I commented about cmh approach running the departures too far west and she said; 'no the VFR aircraft X'. I hung up and went immediately to the aircraft to verify mode C as I saw 18;700 feet. He verified the altitude and I told him that you cannot be in the positive control area above FL180. He stated that he needed an IFR clearance for this part of the flight and I gave him a clearance to maintain FL190. Later when I switched aircraft X I advised him that he got the attention of two fellow controllers that were watching him on their boundary and my supervisor and told him he can't do that anymore. I think he knew better and indicated such.alert the pilot of non-compliance should be sufficient.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZID controller was working a VFR aircraft at 17;500 feet. While coordinating with a neighboring sector; another Controller inquired about the VFR aircraft which was now observed to be at 18;700 feet in the PCA. Reporter then advised the VFR aircraft that they cannot be in the PCA and issued a subsequent clearance.
Narrative: Aircraft X was being worked by me eastbound and checked on VFR. The controller told me (next to me) verbally he was climbing from 16;500 feet to 17;500 feet VFR. I amended the altitude and then when he checked on I told him about precipitation intensities to the SE and asked about the tops. I made a point out to Sector 31 a little bit later and she said 'What is that guy doing?' I commented about CMH approach running the departures too far West and she said; 'No the VFR Aircraft X'. I hung up and went immediately to the aircraft to verify mode C as I saw 18;700 feet. He verified the altitude and I told him that you cannot be in the PCA above FL180. He stated that he needed an IFR clearance for this part of the flight and I gave him a clearance to maintain FL190. Later when I switched Aircraft X I advised him that he got the attention of two fellow controllers that were watching him on their boundary and my Supervisor and told him he can't do that anymore. I think he knew better and indicated such.Alert the pilot of non-compliance should be sufficient.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.