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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1279761 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201507 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | NCT.TRACON |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Medium Transport Low Wing 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | No Specific Anomaly Occurred All Types |
Narrative:
This is more a safety concern report. The razzr arrival into sjc is one of the new RNAV arrivals. When landing runway 12L/right the profile has you descending over edmnd fix at or above 5;400 feet at 230 KIAS. The next fix is jesen with an altitude of 4;000 feet according the STAR plate they are 4.3 NM apart. That would be a close but possible descent if planned properly. Except in between the two; 1 nm past edmnd the aircraft will pass under class B airspace from sfo. It isn't possible to cross a fix at 230 KIAS; in one mile slow to 200 to comply with far speed limits and descend to meet the next altitude. I tried to comply with all and couldn't do it; even with full spoilers out. There is a NOTAM out regarding speed at zorsa at 200 KIAS so this would appear to be a known problem. The tekky departure has a similar problem showing a max speed of 230 KIAS while under B airspace.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Arrival and departures at SJC operate under the SFO Class B and crews need to observe the 200 knot airspeed restriction.
Narrative: This is more a safety concern report. The RAZZR arrival into SJC is one of the new RNAV arrivals. When landing runway 12L/R the profile has you descending over EDMND fix at or above 5;400 feet at 230 KIAS. The next fix is JESEN with an altitude of 4;000 feet according the STAR plate they are 4.3 NM apart. That would be a close but possible descent if planned properly. Except in between the two; 1 nm past EDMND the aircraft will pass under Class B airspace from SFO. It isn't possible to cross a fix at 230 KIAS; in one mile slow to 200 to comply with FAR speed limits and descend to meet the next altitude. I tried to comply with all and couldn't do it; even with full spoilers out. There is a NOTAM out regarding speed at ZORSA at 200 KIAS so this would appear to be a known problem. The TEKKY departure has a similar problem showing a max speed of 230 KIAS while under B airspace.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.