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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 127400 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198911 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lax airport : hhr |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : hhr |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 280 flight time type : 37 |
| ASRS Report | 127400 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | observation : air carrier inspector |
| Qualification | other other : other pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On nov/xx/89, I was flying the VFR corridor through the la TCA from north to south. I was headed to hawthorne airport for a CFI checkride with an FAA inspector. Although I was unfamiliar with the area, I understood the rules of the VFR corridor and was complying. Over the top of lax (while I continued to monitor the corridor advisory frequency), I got the ATIS and tuned in hawthorne tower to get instructions for entering their pattern. After having hawthorne repeat the instructions I understood/misunderstood them to tell me to descend to 2500 and report over the san diego freeway. It was at this point that I broke the altitude restriction on the TCA. I did not know what my mistake was until I called the phone number given me over the radio. Also, I realized the following day, when I made the same flight, that they must have told me to cross the san diego freeway at or above 2500'. As a flight instructor I will make sure that all of my students receive flight instruction in a TCA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF INITIAL CFI CHECKRIDE WITH FAA INSPECTOR INADVERTENTLY PENETRATES LAX TCA.
Narrative: ON NOV/XX/89, I WAS FLYING THE VFR CORRIDOR THROUGH THE LA TCA FROM N TO S. I WAS HEADED TO HAWTHORNE ARPT FOR A CFI CHECKRIDE WITH AN FAA INSPECTOR. ALTHOUGH I WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, I UNDERSTOOD THE RULES OF THE VFR CORRIDOR AND WAS COMPLYING. OVER THE TOP OF LAX (WHILE I CONTINUED TO MONITOR THE CORRIDOR ADVISORY FREQ), I GOT THE ATIS AND TUNED IN HAWTHORNE TWR TO GET INSTRUCTIONS FOR ENTERING THEIR PATTERN. AFTER HAVING HAWTHORNE REPEAT THE INSTRUCTIONS I UNDERSTOOD/MISUNDERSTOOD THEM TO TELL ME TO DSND TO 2500 AND REPORT OVER THE SAN DIEGO FREEWAY. IT WAS AT THIS POINT THAT I BROKE THE ALT RESTRICTION ON THE TCA. I DID NOT KNOW WHAT MY MISTAKE WAS UNTIL I CALLED THE PHONE NUMBER GIVEN ME OVER THE RADIO. ALSO, I REALIZED THE FOLLOWING DAY, WHEN I MADE THE SAME FLT, THAT THEY MUST HAVE TOLD ME TO CROSS THE SAN DIEGO FREEWAY AT OR ABOVE 2500'. AS A FLT INSTRUCTOR I WILL MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF MY STUDENTS RECEIVE FLT INSTRUCTION IN A TCA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.