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Air carrier departing phx on SID has conflict with small aircraft at 13,000' because small aircraft had no mode C.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 127385 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198911 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : srp |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 12800 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 125385 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 126982 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 800 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Near miss with small aircraft type aircraft while at 13,000' on the payson 5 departure from sky harbor (phx). Small aircraft was lime green and white, white lettering with single passenger. Our flight was on a 050 heading to join the salt river 030 radial. At 13 DME captain picked up small aircraft co-altitude opposite direction and took evasive action. Total miss was approximately 200' vertical and 800' horizontal. When ZAB was queried, they had not talked to the pilot nor had mode C. After our insistence and telephone discussion they were tracking the pilot so they could find out what he was doing. What is also significant is that the aircraft was hidden from first officer view by metal bow in windscreen. Valuable lesson about looking around beam but poor design.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR DEPARTING PHX ON SID HAS CONFLICT WITH SMA AT 13,000' BECAUSE SMA HAD NO MODE C.
Narrative: NEAR MISS WITH SMA TYPE ACFT WHILE AT 13,000' ON THE PAYSON 5 DEP FROM SKY HARBOR (PHX). SMA WAS LIME GREEN AND WHITE, WHITE LETTERING WITH SINGLE PAX. OUR FLT WAS ON A 050 HDG TO JOIN THE SALT RIVER 030 RADIAL. AT 13 DME CAPT PICKED UP SMA CO-ALT OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND TOOK EVASIVE ACTION. TOTAL MISS WAS APPROX 200' VERTICAL AND 800' HORIZONTAL. WHEN ZAB WAS QUERIED, THEY HAD NOT TALKED TO THE PLT NOR HAD MODE C. AFTER OUR INSISTENCE AND TELEPHONE DISCUSSION THEY WERE TRACKING THE PLT SO THEY COULD FIND OUT WHAT HE WAS DOING. WHAT IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT IS THAT THE ACFT WAS HIDDEN FROM F/O VIEW BY METAL BOW IN WINDSCREEN. VALUABLE LESSON ABOUT LOOKING AROUND BEAM BUT POOR DESIGN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.