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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 1221208 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201411 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ORD.Airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | McDonnell Douglas Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | STAR WATSN2 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Flight Phase | Final Approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 120 Flight Crew Total 8000 Flight Crew Type 1200 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Speed All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
Chicago center was extremely busy with arrivals. I was assigned 300 knots on the watsn 2 arrival and told to switch to 133.625. I checked in with him and did not mention the 300 knots speed assignment on check in nor did he ask. I was watching the aircraft ahead of me on TCAS get closer and closer. I called three times to confirm they still wanted 300 knots with no reply; maybe I stepped on someone and blocked the question. As our range continued to dwindle I slowed to 250. Just as we had slowed down two controllers started to harangue me about why I slowed down we were assigned 300. One of the exasperated controllers assigned me 300 knots and 7000 ft. Moments later I asked them to confirm 300 below 10000 ft and another voice on the frequency said 'no 250 thanks for asking'. We ended up landing less than 5 miles behind a 747 where we encountered wake turbulence on short final. If we hadn't slowed down when we did I think we might have been too close to the preceding aircraft and gone around.clearly this was a stressful environment but without good two way communication. I am obliged to operate my airplane as safely as I could.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Mcdonnell Douglas Widebody Captain reported encountering wake vortex in trail of a B747 on approach to ORD. Speed assignment from ATC was cited as a factor.
Narrative: Chicago Center was extremely busy with arrivals. I was assigned 300 knots on the WATSN 2 arrival and told to switch to 133.625. I checked in with him and did not mention the 300 knots speed assignment on check in nor did he ask. I was watching the aircraft ahead of me on TCAS get closer and closer. I called three times to confirm they still wanted 300 knots with no reply; maybe I stepped on someone and blocked the question. As our range continued to dwindle I slowed to 250. Just as we had slowed down two controllers started to harangue me about why I slowed down we were assigned 300. One of the exasperated controllers assigned me 300 knots and 7000 FT. Moments later I asked them to confirm 300 below 10000 FT and another voice on the frequency said 'no 250 thanks for asking'. We ended up landing less than 5 miles behind a 747 where we encountered wake turbulence on short final. If we hadn't slowed down when we did I think we might have been too close to the preceding aircraft and gone around.Clearly this was a stressful environment but without good two way communication. I am obliged to operate my airplane as safely as I could.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.