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Air carrier-medium large transport crossed through final approach and conflicted with an air carrier-widebody transport landing on a parallel runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 122037 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2200 msl bound upper : 2200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 122037 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 121480 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Sadde 4 arrival, 5 mi from runway 24R on right base leg heading 160 degrees with several 121 carriers given as traffic. Also given an air carrier widebody transport on final to runway 25L. He crossed at 12 O'clock, approximately same altitude. We were not cleared for approach or given an intercept heading for localizer 24R. Radio too congested to break in and advise ATC. We were finally given an intercept heading for 24R as we approached the 25L localizer, turning within 1-2 mi behind air carrier widebody transport on final to 25L.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR-MLG CROSSED THROUGH FINAL APCH AND CONFLICTED WITH AN ACR-WDB LNDG ON A PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: SADDE 4 ARR, 5 MI FROM RWY 24R ON RIGHT BASE LEG HDG 160 DEGS WITH SEVERAL 121 CARRIERS GIVEN AS TFC. ALSO GIVEN AN ACR WDB ON FINAL TO RWY 25L. HE CROSSED AT 12 O'CLOCK, APPROX SAME ALT. WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR APCH OR GIVEN AN INTERCEPT HDG FOR LOC 24R. RADIO TOO CONGESTED TO BREAK IN AND ADVISE ATC. WE WERE FINALLY GIVEN AN INTERCEPT HDG FOR 24R AS WE APCHED THE 25L LOC, TURNING WITHIN 1-2 MI BEHIND ACR WDB ON FINAL TO 25L.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.