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Close proximity air carrier-medium large transport on takeoff from runway 24L and mlt on landing roll across 24L following landing on 24R at lax.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 121258 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198908 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 170 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Military Transport |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 27000 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 121258 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 170 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My first officer was flying. An mlt had landed on runway 24, was instructed to turn left and hold short of 24L. He acknowledged this on VHF frequency 133.9 (that was the last tower communication I remember reference the mlt). We were cleared for takeoff on runway 24L, to climb to 5000' on a heading of 250 degrees. Just prior to liftoff speed we observed the mlt start taxiing. He taxied onto runway 24L in front of us. We were then above V1 speed, and our only option was to continue the takeoff. We were able to lift off over the mlt, but had our gross weight been up closer to maximum, we might have had a real problem. On our arrival at our destination, I called the lax tower and their people confirmed that the mlt crossed runway 24L west/O a clearance. Both the tower spokesman and I feel that the tower and our crew could not have handled the situation differently than we did.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX ACR-MLG ON TKOF FROM RWY 24L AND MLT ON LNDG ROLL ACROSS 24L FOLLOWING LNDG ON 24R AT LAX.
Narrative: MY F/O WAS FLYING. AN MLT HAD LANDED ON RWY 24, WAS INSTRUCTED TO TURN LEFT AND HOLD SHORT OF 24L. HE ACKNOWLEDGED THIS ON VHF FREQ 133.9 (THAT WAS THE LAST TWR COM I REMEMBER REF THE MLT). WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 24L, TO CLB TO 5000' ON A HDG OF 250 DEGS. JUST PRIOR TO LIFTOFF SPD WE OBSERVED THE MLT START TAXIING. HE TAXIED ONTO RWY 24L IN FRONT OF US. WE WERE THEN ABOVE V1 SPD, AND OUR ONLY OPTION WAS TO CONTINUE THE TKOF. WE WERE ABLE TO LIFT OFF OVER THE MLT, BUT HAD OUR GROSS WT BEEN UP CLOSER TO MAX, WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A REAL PROB. ON OUR ARR AT OUR DEST, I CALLED THE LAX TWR AND THEIR PEOPLE CONFIRMED THAT THE MLT CROSSED RWY 24L W/O A CLRNC. BOTH THE TWR SPOKESMAN AND I FEEL THAT THE TWR AND OUR CREW COULD NOT HAVE HANDLED THE SITUATION DIFFERENTLY THAN WE DID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.