Narrative:

I was training a radar developmental on sector 13 (the northwest arrival gate) during the morning rush into den. Aircraft X checked on our frequency (with no speed assigned) and was told to descend via the MOLTN2 arrival. Aircraft X read back; 'descend via the MOLTN2.' later aircraft X asked; 'do you want us to go fast or comply with the speeds?' the radar controller told aircraft X to comply with the speeds beginning at ramms. Aircraft X read back; 'rodger; comply at ramms.' aircraft X was later shipped to den approach. Moments later den approach called and talked with our d-side controller and questioned the speed restrictions we were giving. They told her that aircraft X came over saying they were told to go as fast as they can and comply with speeds after ramms. When our d-side told us what had transpired with we informed her that it would be a pilot deviation. The d-side called back to den approach and told them we were going to file a pilot deviation. Our supervisor was notified and we reviewed the transmissions with the omic. We told them a pilot deviation needed to be filed. It was not clear if den approach read the pilot the possible pilot deviation statement.we have had so many problems with the northwest arrival gate at den. Approach usually assumes we did something wrong. I believe we are not filing enough pilot deviations when things occur between facilities at the gate. Our center needs to be more aggressive in filing and not leaving it up to den approach or assuming they did it.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ZDV Instructor and Developmental report of a pilot who asks if they need to comply with the restrictions for speed on a STAR and the Developmental advises the pilot after a certain point they need to comply. The pilot later on gets written up for violating the speeds on the STAR.

Narrative: I was training a Radar Developmental on Sector 13 (the northwest arrival gate) during the morning rush into DEN. Aircraft X checked on our frequency (with no speed assigned) and was told to descend via the MOLTN2 arrival. Aircraft X read back; 'Descend via the MOLTN2.' Later Aircraft X asked; 'Do you want us to go fast or comply with the speeds?' The Radar Controller told Aircraft X to comply with the speeds beginning at RAMMS. Aircraft X read back; 'Rodger; comply at RAMMS.' Aircraft X was later shipped to DEN Approach. Moments later DEN Approach called and talked with our D-side Controller and questioned the speed restrictions we were giving. They told her that Aircraft X came over saying they were told to go as fast as they can and comply with speeds after RAMMS. When our D-side told us what had transpired with we informed her that it would be a pilot deviation. The D-side called back to DEN Approach and told them we were going to file a pilot deviation. Our Supervisor was notified and we reviewed the transmissions with the OMIC. We told them a pilot deviation needed to be filed. It was not clear if DEN Approach read the pilot the Possible Pilot Deviation Statement.We have had so many problems with the northwest arrival gate at DEN. Approach usually assumes we did something wrong. I believe we are not filing enough pilot deviations when things occur between facilities at the gate. Our Center needs to be more aggressive in filing and not leaving it up to DEN Approach or assuming they did it.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.