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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 117273 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198907 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl airport : alb |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 117273 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After starting #2 engine noticed the 'start valve open' light had not come on. I had engineer check the act abnormals and found nothing in them that would indicate we had a serious problem. After starting the other 2 engines with a similar light problem, we assumed a common problem with all engines. Since engine starts were normal we elected to take off. While en route I remembered to check the MEL and found the start lights to be required. Since albany had no maintenance I elected to call the company maintenance coordinator on ground in albany and try to resolve what to do. He and I found the aircraft had just come from overhaul where the starter circuit had been worked on and had flown several flts before I had gotten the aircraft. Since the starters had worked properly all day and we were determined to fly the aircraft on to portland, me for maintenance. Had I made my thorough search of all manuals and logbooks before taking off from atlanta where I discovered the problem, I would not have put myself in a position like I found myself at albany, ny. I understand maintenance found the light circuit had been wired improperly.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG VIOLATION OF MEL REQUIREMENT.
Narrative: AFTER STARTING #2 ENGINE NOTICED THE 'START VALVE OPEN' LIGHT HAD NOT COME ON. I HAD ENGINEER CHECK THE ACT ABNORMALS AND FOUND NOTHING IN THEM THAT WOULD INDICATE WE HAD A SERIOUS PROBLEM. AFTER STARTING THE OTHER 2 ENGINES WITH A SIMILAR LIGHT PROBLEM, WE ASSUMED A COMMON PROBLEM WITH ALL ENGINES. SINCE ENGINE STARTS WERE NORMAL WE ELECTED TO TAKE OFF. WHILE ENRTE I REMEMBERED TO CHECK THE MEL AND FOUND THE START LIGHTS TO BE REQUIRED. SINCE ALBANY HAD NO MAINT I ELECTED TO CALL THE COMPANY MAINT COORDINATOR ON GND IN ALBANY AND TRY TO RESOLVE WHAT TO DO. HE AND I FOUND THE ACFT HAD JUST COME FROM OVERHAUL WHERE THE STARTER CIRCUIT HAD BEEN WORKED ON AND HAD FLOWN SEVERAL FLTS BEFORE I HAD GOTTEN THE ACFT. SINCE THE STARTERS HAD WORKED PROPERLY ALL DAY AND WE WERE DETERMINED TO FLY THE ACFT ON TO PORTLAND, ME FOR MAINT. HAD I MADE MY THOROUGH SEARCH OF ALL MANUALS AND LOGBOOKS BEFORE TAKING OFF FROM ATLANTA WHERE I DISCOVERED THE PROBLEM, I WOULD NOT HAVE PUT MYSELF IN A POSITION LIKE I FOUND MYSELF AT ALBANY, NY. I UNDERSTAND MAINT FOUND THE LIGHT CIRCUIT HAD BEEN WIRED IMPROPERLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.