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Pilot and instructor in small aircraft aircraft landed at small airport and were advised they should have obtained prior landing permission to conduct training. No note on sectional chart. Advice of prior approval requirement published in AOPA, and airport flight directory.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 113491 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198906 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : x52 |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 265 flight time type : 27 |
| ASRS Report | 113491 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
I am a commercial, instrument pilot in training for my CFI license. My instructor wanted to introduce me to actual soft-field lndgs, so he consulted the miami sectional for a non-private, other than hard surface runway. We proceeded to new hibiscus airpark making radio calls on the published frequency. Upon back-taxiing after a full stop landing, a gentleman with a hand-held radio asked us if we were aware that new hibiscus was a prior permission required airport. He showed us that in the AFD it does say 'ppr'. We apologized for only consulting our sectional, but he could not tell us why it was not marked 'private' or 'right' on the sectional.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT AND INSTRUCTOR IN SMA ACFT LANDED AT SMALL ARPT AND WERE ADVISED THEY SHOULD HAVE OBTAINED PRIOR LNDG PERMISSION TO CONDUCT TRAINING. NO NOTE ON SECTIONAL CHART. ADVICE OF PRIOR APPROVAL REQUIREMENT PUBLISHED IN AOPA, AND AIRPORT FLT DIRECTORY.
Narrative: I AM A COMMERCIAL, INSTRUMENT PLT IN TRAINING FOR MY CFI LICENSE. MY INSTRUCTOR WANTED TO INTRODUCE ME TO ACTUAL SOFT-FIELD LNDGS, SO HE CONSULTED THE MIAMI SECTIONAL FOR A NON-PRIVATE, OTHER THAN HARD SURFACE RWY. WE PROCEEDED TO NEW HIBISCUS AIRPARK MAKING RADIO CALLS ON THE PUBLISHED FREQ. UPON BACK-TAXIING AFTER A FULL STOP LNDG, A GENTLEMAN WITH A HAND-HELD RADIO ASKED US IF WE WERE AWARE THAT NEW HIBISCUS WAS A PRIOR PERMISSION REQUIRED ARPT. HE SHOWED US THAT IN THE AFD IT DOES SAY 'PPR'. WE APOLOGIZED FOR ONLY CONSULTING OUR SECTIONAL, BUT HE COULD NOT TELL US WHY IT WAS NOT MARKED 'PVT' OR 'R' ON THE SECTIONAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.