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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 110695 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198905 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : clt |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : departure |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 110695 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I was working dr-east and training. I was the instrument. Our departure aircraft, an small aircraft, was climbing to 5000'. Ar-east was working an atx inbound at 4000'. Ar-east stated verbally (not on tape) that he would miss us. We said, 'ok' (not on tape). Ar-east failed to avoid us, and both aircraft lost standard sep prior to applying visibility sep. This could have been prevented by ar-east staying in ar-east airspace and/or proper coordination. I thought I could trust the controller working ar-east.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ARRIVING ATX CAME IN CLOSE PROX TO A DEPARTING SMA.
Narrative: I WAS WORKING DR-E AND TRNING. I WAS THE INSTR. OUR DEP ACFT, AN SMA, WAS CLBING TO 5000'. AR-E WAS WORKING AN ATX INBND AT 4000'. AR-E STATED VERBALLY (NOT ON TAPE) THAT HE WOULD MISS US. WE SAID, 'OK' (NOT ON TAPE). AR-E FAILED TO AVOID US, AND BOTH ACFT LOST STANDARD SEP PRIOR TO APPLYING VIS SEP. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED BY AR-E STAYING IN AR-E AIRSPACE AND/OR PROPER COORD. I THOUGHT I COULD TRUST THE CTLR WORKING AR-E.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.