Air carrier large transport altitude deviation overshot during climb.

Attributes
ACN	109373
Time
Date	198904
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 14300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zny
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other
Route In Use	departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 13800 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	109373
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

On climb out from jfk, ZNY asked us to climb at least 2500 FPM to FL230. We had been given FL230 earlier but we told them we could not climb at 2500 FPM up to FL230. We received no response. At 12000' we were given a level altitude of 13000' and a 20 degree turn to the left for climb. Moments later we were given a turn to the right and climb to 14000'. Before the turn was completed we were asked to turn left to 20 degrees. At that moment the second officer stated he was having a problem with the cabin pressurization. I turned around and saw the cabin going up 1500 FPM and down 500 FPM. At that moment the first officer stated, 'we were to level at 14000'.' we went through the altitude 14300' I returned to 14000', however not before center asked us what altitude we were at. Factors in the altitude excursion were: 3 turns, left then right, then left in short period of time; 3 altitude changes in a short period of time; the instability of cabin pressurization; a new large transport captain with less than 60 hours in left seat; a new large transport first officer with less than 40 hours in right seat; and a new large transport second officer with less than 30 hours in F/east seat.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR LGT ALT DEVIATION OVERSHOT DURING CLIMB.

Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM JFK, ZNY ASKED US TO CLB AT LEAST 2500 FPM TO FL230. WE HAD BEEN GIVEN FL230 EARLIER BUT WE TOLD THEM WE COULD NOT CLB AT 2500 FPM UP TO FL230. WE RECEIVED NO RESPONSE. AT 12000' WE WERE GIVEN A LEVEL ALT OF 13000' AND A 20 DEG TURN TO THE LEFT FOR CLB. MOMENTS LATER WE WERE GIVEN A TURN TO THE RIGHT AND CLB TO 14000'. BEFORE THE TURN WAS COMPLETED WE WERE ASKED TO TURN LEFT TO 20 DEGS. AT THAT MOMENT THE S/O STATED HE WAS HAVING A PROB WITH THE CABIN PRESSURIZATION. I TURNED AROUND AND SAW THE CABIN GOING UP 1500 FPM AND DOWN 500 FPM. AT THAT MOMENT THE F/O STATED, 'WE WERE TO LEVEL AT 14000'.' WE WENT THROUGH THE ALT 14300' I RETURNED TO 14000', HOWEVER NOT BEFORE CENTER ASKED US WHAT ALT WE WERE AT. FACTORS IN THE ALT EXCURSION WERE: 3 TURNS, LEFT THEN RIGHT, THEN LEFT IN SHORT PERIOD OF TIME; 3 ALT CHANGES IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME; THE INSTABILITY OF CABIN PRESSURIZATION; A NEW LGT CAPT WITH LESS THAN 60 HRS IN LEFT SEAT; A NEW LGT F/O WITH LESS THAN 40 HRS IN RIGHT SEAT; AND A NEW LGT S/O WITH LESS THAN 30 HRS IN F/E SEAT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.