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Atx light transport failed to clear runway 22R at ord because the reporter did not think a clearance phrased 'plan to clear on and or at runway 27 was clearance to taxi on that runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 108073 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198904 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 10400 |
| ASRS Report | 108073 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | aircraft : equipment problem dissipated controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Ord is a very busy place, yet the controllers use of relaxed terminology and untimely directions causes many conflicting situations. Aircraft cutting each other off on txwys and aircraft having to go around on approach are examples. Being new to ord, when a controller said plan to exit runway 22R at/onto runway 27R, this did not in my mind give permission to do so. When we rolled to runway 27R with no further direction from the tower (he also wasn't talking to other aircraft), we asked if it was ok to make the right turn onto this active runway. There was no response from the tower. Then shortly there after the tower asked us if we had a problem and sent us around. We of course didn't have a problem, nor were we moving along slowly. All we needed were timely instructions from tower (I didn't want to turn onto another active runway with a 'plan' to clearance issued while on final approach). The tower next spent more time describing our inadequacies than giving pertinent runway clearance instructions. Had he not said anything, we would have cleared the runway at the first available exit and of course, I wouldn't be writing this now.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX LTT FAILED TO CLEAR RWY 22R AT ORD BECAUSE THE REPORTER DID NOT THINK A CLRNC PHRASED 'PLAN TO CLEAR ON AND OR AT RWY 27 WAS CLRNC TO TAXI ON THAT RWY.
Narrative: ORD IS A VERY BUSY PLACE, YET THE CTLRS USE OF RELAXED TERMINOLOGY AND UNTIMELY DIRECTIONS CAUSES MANY CONFLICTING SITUATIONS. ACFT CUTTING EACH OTHER OFF ON TXWYS AND ACFT HAVING TO GO AROUND ON APCH ARE EXAMPLES. BEING NEW TO ORD, WHEN A CTLR SAID PLAN TO EXIT RWY 22R AT/ONTO RWY 27R, THIS DID NOT IN MY MIND GIVE PERMISSION TO DO SO. WHEN WE ROLLED TO RWY 27R WITH NO FURTHER DIRECTION FROM THE TWR (HE ALSO WASN'T TALKING TO OTHER ACFT), WE ASKED IF IT WAS OK TO MAKE THE RIGHT TURN ONTO THIS ACTIVE RWY. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE TWR. THEN SHORTLY THERE AFTER THE TWR ASKED US IF WE HAD A PROB AND SENT US AROUND. WE OF COURSE DIDN'T HAVE A PROB, NOR WERE WE MOVING ALONG SLOWLY. ALL WE NEEDED WERE TIMELY INSTRUCTIONS FROM TWR (I DIDN'T WANT TO TURN ONTO ANOTHER ACTIVE RWY WITH A 'PLAN' TO CLRNC ISSUED WHILE ON FINAL APCH). THE TWR NEXT SPENT MORE TIME DESCRIBING OUR INADEQUACIES THAN GIVING PERTINENT RWY CLRNC INSTRUCTIONS. HAD HE NOT SAID ANYTHING, WE WOULD HAVE CLRED THE RWY AT THE FIRST AVAILABLE EXIT AND OF COURSE, I WOULDN'T BE WRITING THIS NOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.