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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : see|
airport : myf
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 2300|
msl bound upper : 2300
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : san|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
pilot : commercial
pilot : cfi
pilot : flight engineer
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 200|
flight time total : 7200
flight time type : 250
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||flight crew : exited penetrated airspace|
none taken : detected after the fact
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Departed very busy montgomery field VFR for psp after 2 practice ILS approachs. Departure control would not provide advisories. While trying to get a TCA clearance we skimmed the air traffic area of gillespie field. We were so busy dodging 3 other aircraft, terrain, trying to get a word in edgewise with departure control, we got too close. It looked like five statute mi to gillespie, but radar controller told us were only 3 mi. It was as dense air traffic as I've ever seen!! Solution: ban VFR flts in southern california, impeach all politicians for not spending the trust fund to hire more ATC help.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE ATTEMPTING TO OBTAIN CLRNC INTO THE TCA REPORTER ACFT INADVERTENTLY ENTERED AN ATA.
Narrative: DEPARTED VERY BUSY MONTGOMERY FIELD VFR FOR PSP AFTER 2 PRACTICE ILS APCHS. DEP CTL WOULD NOT PROVIDE ADVISORIES. WHILE TRYING TO GET A TCA CLRNC WE SKIMMED THE ATA OF GILLESPIE FIELD. WE WERE SO BUSY DODGING 3 OTHER ACFT, TERRAIN, TRYING TO GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE WITH DEP CTL, WE GOT TOO CLOSE. IT LOOKED LIKE FIVE STATUTE MI TO GILLESPIE, BUT RADAR CTLR TOLD US WERE ONLY 3 MI. IT WAS AS DENSE AIR TFC AS I'VE EVER SEEN!! SOLUTION: BAN VFR FLTS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, IMPEACH ALL POLITICIANS FOR NOT SPENDING THE TRUST FUND TO HIRE MORE ATC HELP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.