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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : zlc|
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : radar|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Experience||controller radar : 17|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
|ATC Facility||procedure or policy : unspecified|
This problem is a continuing problem with the WX that we use every hour of every day. If the WX is bad we must give it to the pilots prior to landing. As you can see by the enclosed sequence that the WX was not good at all. I tried to issue the WX to a pilot, but was totally confused by what it was. The 'XX00' is the time the sequence is issued, 'rs' is record special! There are 2 times on the strip: XX51 Z and XX50 Z. Both are record specials. The second sequence has no temperature, no dew point, no winds, and no altimeter--even though the XX50 sequence is the latest and should be the most current. This problem happens all the time at ZLC ARTCC. We have complained to everyone, including the manager of ZLC ARTCC, with no results. The teletype/WX position are supposed to correct all WX that is not correct when it comes in from mkc WX center, but they don't feel it's their problem and don't really care. I realize we as controllers must check the WX, but when you are very busy with bad WX and you try to read the attached sequence, you make quite a fool out of yourself and might not get the correct WX to the pilot. I have used the NASA ASRS before, with very good results, and hope you can help with this unbearable problem that we at the center can't solve alone. Thank you.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WX SEQUENCE CONTAINED ON PRINTER GENERATED FLT PROGRESS STRIP DOES NOT HAVE VITAL INFORMATION.
Narrative: THIS PROB IS A CONTINUING PROB WITH THE WX THAT WE USE EVERY HR OF EVERY DAY. IF THE WX IS BAD WE MUST GIVE IT TO THE PLTS PRIOR TO LNDG. AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE ENCLOSED SEQUENCE THAT THE WX WAS NOT GOOD AT ALL. I TRIED TO ISSUE THE WX TO A PLT, BUT WAS TOTALLY CONFUSED BY WHAT IT WAS. THE 'XX00' IS THE TIME THE SEQUENCE IS ISSUED, 'RS' IS RECORD SPECIAL! THERE ARE 2 TIMES ON THE STRIP: XX51 Z AND XX50 Z. BOTH ARE RECORD SPECIALS. THE SECOND SEQUENCE HAS NO TEMP, NO DEW POINT, NO WINDS, AND NO ALTIMETER--EVEN THOUGH THE XX50 SEQUENCE IS THE LATEST AND SHOULD BE THE MOST CURRENT. THIS PROB HAPPENS ALL THE TIME AT ZLC ARTCC. WE HAVE COMPLAINED TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE MGR OF ZLC ARTCC, WITH NO RESULTS. THE TELETYPE/WX POS ARE SUPPOSED TO CORRECT ALL WX THAT IS NOT CORRECT WHEN IT COMES IN FROM MKC WX CENTER, BUT THEY DON'T FEEL IT'S THEIR PROB AND DON'T REALLY CARE. I REALIZE WE AS CTLRS MUST CHK THE WX, BUT WHEN YOU ARE VERY BUSY WITH BAD WX AND YOU TRY TO READ THE ATTACHED SEQUENCE, YOU MAKE QUITE A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF AND MIGHT NOT GET THE CORRECT WX TO THE PLT. I HAVE USED THE NASA ASRS BEFORE, WITH VERY GOOD RESULTS, AND HOPE YOU CAN HELP WITH THIS UNBEARABLE PROB THAT WE AT THE CENTER CAN'T SOLVE ALONE. THANK YOU.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.