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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 105360 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198902 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pxv |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc artcc : zid |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 105360 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified atc |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was issued heading and climb on second transmission to avoid traffic over pxv VORTAC. Pointout to pxv controller was not concluded prior to X violating ZID's airspace. Suggestion: stl departures to bna overfly enl to bna. On this routing, the aircraft's protected airspace will violate pxv's airspace, requiring a pointout on all aircraft flying to bna. Either we need to change the routing, or re-align the tri-center boundaries (ZME, ZKC and ZID) to eliminate the need for constant pointouts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNCOORDINATED PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE AS ACR WENT FROM ZKC TO ZID AREA WITHOUT RADAR HANDOFF OR COORD. OPERATIONAL DEVIATION.
Narrative: ACR X WAS ISSUED HDG AND CLB ON SECOND XMISSION TO AVOID TFC OVER PXV VORTAC. POINTOUT TO PXV CTLR WAS NOT CONCLUDED PRIOR TO X VIOLATING ZID'S AIRSPACE. SUGGESTION: STL DEPS TO BNA OVERFLY ENL TO BNA. ON THIS ROUTING, THE ACFT'S PROTECTED AIRSPACE WILL VIOLATE PXV'S AIRSPACE, REQUIRING A POINTOUT ON ALL ACFT FLYING TO BNA. EITHER WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ROUTING, OR RE-ALIGN THE TRI-CENTER BOUNDARIES (ZME, ZKC AND ZID) TO ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR CONSTANT POINTOUTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.