<< >> NASA ASRS Report 105360, February 1989

Uncoordinated penetration of airspace as air carrier went from ZKC to ZID area without radar handoff or coordination. Operational deviation.

Attributes
ACN	105360
Time
Date	198902
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : pxv
State Reference	IN
Altitude	msl bound lower : 29000 msl bound upper : 29000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zkc artcc : zid
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
ASRS Report	105360
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified atc
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact other
Consequence	faa : investigated
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation

Narrative:

Air carrier X was issued heading and climb on second transmission to avoid traffic over pxv VORTAC. Pointout to pxv controller was not concluded prior to X violating ZID's airspace. Suggestion: stl departures to bna overfly enl to bna. On this routing, the aircraft's protected airspace will violate pxv's airspace, requiring a pointout on all aircraft flying to bna. Either we need to change the routing, or re-align the tri-center boundaries (ZME, ZKC and ZID) to eliminate the need for constant pointouts.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: UNCOORDINATED PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE AS ACR WENT FROM ZKC TO ZID AREA WITHOUT RADAR HANDOFF OR COORD. OPERATIONAL DEVIATION.

Narrative: ACR X WAS ISSUED HDG AND CLB ON SECOND XMISSION TO AVOID TFC OVER PXV VORTAC. POINTOUT TO PXV CTLR WAS NOT CONCLUDED PRIOR TO X VIOLATING ZID'S AIRSPACE. SUGGESTION: STL DEPS TO BNA OVERFLY ENL TO BNA. ON THIS ROUTING, THE ACFT'S PROTECTED AIRSPACE WILL VIOLATE PXV'S AIRSPACE, REQUIRING A POINTOUT ON ALL ACFT FLYING TO BNA. EITHER WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ROUTING, OR RE-ALIGN THE TRI-CENTER BOUNDARIES (ZME, ZKC AND ZID) TO ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR CONSTANT POINTOUTS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.