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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : bur|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 2000|
msl bound upper : 5000
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : ntd|
tracon : bur
tower : bur
tower : hou
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 12|
flight time total : 300
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : approach|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude|
other anomaly other
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Intra Facility Coordination Failure|
Inter Facility Coordination Failure
I was on an IFR flight plan into bur on a perfect VFR day. I was with point mugu approach and was being handed off to bur approach and told to intercept the bur localizer. Upon being handed off to bur, I was told to stay outside the arsa and call back in 1 min. I said, 'this is small aircraft X, IFR at 5000',' on my call up. I waited 1 min and again restated the above as I was surprised at their requests. Now I was told to enter the downwind for 34R and contact the tower, which I did. However I could not see the airport so I said this to the tower after he told me to report entering the downwind. He told me to contact approach for a steer, which I did. Now the approach controller said that he had been trying to reach me and why was I at 2000' rather than 5000'. I told him that approach had instructed me to contact the tower and I was acting on that instruction. He then gave me a heading to reach the airport and contact tower, which I did and landed. The problem was a breakdown in communications somewhere. It was very scary for me to be in la airspace and to be told to not enter the arsa. Being on an IFR flight plan, I was prepared to judge the exact boundaries. I told him twice that I was IFR, but had no response in his instructions. I believe there must be better communications between the pilot, approach and tower. Maybe an expect further clearance from one controller before they hand you off.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER TRANSFER OF ATC JURISDICTION FROM NTD TO BUR APCH THE ATC CTLR WAS NOT AWARE THAT SMA WAS ON IFR FLT PLAN. OPERATIONAL DEVIATION.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN INTO BUR ON A PERFECT VFR DAY. I WAS WITH POINT MUGU APCH AND WAS BEING HANDED OFF TO BUR APCH AND TOLD TO INTERCEPT THE BUR LOC. UPON BEING HANDED OFF TO BUR, I WAS TOLD TO STAY OUTSIDE THE ARSA AND CALL BACK IN 1 MIN. I SAID, 'THIS IS SMA X, IFR AT 5000',' ON MY CALL UP. I WAITED 1 MIN AND AGAIN RESTATED THE ABOVE AS I WAS SURPRISED AT THEIR REQUESTS. NOW I WAS TOLD TO ENTER THE DOWNWIND FOR 34R AND CONTACT THE TWR, WHICH I DID. HOWEVER I COULD NOT SEE THE ARPT SO I SAID THIS TO THE TWR AFTER HE TOLD ME TO RPT ENTERING THE DOWNWIND. HE TOLD ME TO CONTACT APCH FOR A STEER, WHICH I DID. NOW THE APCH CTLR SAID THAT HE HAD BEEN TRYING TO REACH ME AND WHY WAS I AT 2000' RATHER THAN 5000'. I TOLD HIM THAT APCH HAD INSTRUCTED ME TO CONTACT THE TWR AND I WAS ACTING ON THAT INSTRUCTION. HE THEN GAVE ME A HDG TO REACH THE ARPT AND CONTACT TWR, WHICH I DID AND LANDED. THE PROB WAS A BREAKDOWN IN COMS SOMEWHERE. IT WAS VERY SCARY FOR ME TO BE IN LA AIRSPACE AND TO BE TOLD TO NOT ENTER THE ARSA. BEING ON AN IFR FLT PLAN, I WAS PREPARED TO JUDGE THE EXACT BOUNDARIES. I TOLD HIM TWICE THAT I WAS IFR, BUT HAD NO RESPONSE IN HIS INSTRUCTIONS. I BELIEVE THERE MUST BE BETTER COMS BTWN THE PLT, APCH AND TWR. MAYBE AN EXPECT FURTHER CLRNC FROM ONE CTLR BEFORE THEY HAND YOU OFF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.