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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : fwa|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : fwa|
artcc : zny
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 160|
flight time total : 4377
flight time type : 2113
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Anomaly||non adherence : far|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
Departed day for fwa. Arrival WX at departure was 45 broken and forecast to be about 2000' broken to overcast with visibility about 5 mi with possible light snow. In range to fwa the ATIS was picked up. The fwa ATIS said the ceiling was 600' overcast with visibility 1/2 mi in snow. Initial contact with fwa approach indicated the approach lights to ILS 5 were OTS and tower visibility was 3/4 mi. The crew then asked the runway visual range. The RVR was reported at 2800'. The minimum visibility with the approach lights out for an ILS runway 5 was 3/4 mi or RVR 4000'. At this same time another flight was being handed off from fwa approach to tower, then landed under the same conditions. The crew then deliberated on which visibility was controling. The crew then elected to fly the approach and land since the other flight before us completed the approach and landed. Flight then executed the ILS 5 approach and landed normally. After returning to base the far pertaining to landing minimums was reviewed with the revelation that RVR in this case was controling. In this case the approach and landing should have not been completed. In this case we were led into the situation by another aircraft landing before us, and the fwa approach controller giving 3 different visibilities, when the approach should have been postponed until the visibility improved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LANDED BELOW MINIMUMS.
Narrative: DEPARTED DAY FOR FWA. ARR WX AT DEP WAS 45 BROKEN AND FORECAST TO BE ABOUT 2000' BROKEN TO OVCST WITH VISIBILITY ABOUT 5 MI WITH POSSIBLE LIGHT SNOW. IN RANGE TO FWA THE ATIS WAS PICKED UP. THE FWA ATIS SAID THE CEILING WAS 600' OVCST WITH VISIBILITY 1/2 MI IN SNOW. INITIAL CONTACT WITH FWA APCH INDICATED THE APCH LIGHTS TO ILS 5 WERE OTS AND TWR VISIBILITY WAS 3/4 MI. THE CREW THEN ASKED THE RWY VISUAL RANGE. THE RVR WAS RPTED AT 2800'. THE MINIMUM VISIBILITY WITH THE APCH LIGHTS OUT FOR AN ILS RWY 5 WAS 3/4 MI OR RVR 4000'. AT THIS SAME TIME ANOTHER FLT WAS BEING HANDED OFF FROM FWA APCH TO TWR, THEN LANDED UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS. THE CREW THEN DELIBERATED ON WHICH VISIBILITY WAS CTLING. THE CREW THEN ELECTED TO FLY THE APCH AND LAND SINCE THE OTHER FLT BEFORE US COMPLETED THE APCH AND LANDED. FLT THEN EXECUTED THE ILS 5 APCH AND LANDED NORMALLY. AFTER RETURNING TO BASE THE FAR PERTAINING TO LNDG MINIMUMS WAS REVIEWED WITH THE REVELATION THAT RVR IN THIS CASE WAS CTLING. IN THIS CASE THE APCH AND LNDG SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED. IN THIS CASE WE WERE LED INTO THE SITUATION BY ANOTHER ACFT LNDG BEFORE US, AND THE FWA APCH CTLR GIVING 3 DIFFERENT VISIBILITIES, WHEN THE APCH SHOULD HAVE BEEN POSTPONED UNTIL THE VISIBILITY IMPROVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.