Air carrier medium large transport complaint about being given clearance involving VOR that is notam...

Attributes
ACN	100826
Time
Date	198812
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ind
State Reference	IN
Altitude	msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	other vortac
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	enroute airway : zid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 240
ASRS Report	100826
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Navigational Facility
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

The memphis VOR (mem) is out of service and will be down for 2 more months. Our routes continue to be filed and we continue to be cleared via arrivals that are based on the mem VOR. Is this legal? Should pilots accept this clearance? Why can't a temporary VOR be used? Also is it legal to use the DME for crossing restrictions when the azimuth portion is in operation? If the VOR is out isn't the DME also considered decommissioned? How could most people get the identify?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MLG COMPLAINT ABOUT BEING GIVEN CLRNC INVOLVING VOR THAT IS NOTAMED OUT OF SERVICE.

Narrative: THE MEMPHIS VOR (MEM) IS OUT OF SERVICE AND WILL BE DOWN FOR 2 MORE MONTHS. OUR ROUTES CONTINUE TO BE FILED AND WE CONTINUE TO BE CLRED VIA ARRIVALS THAT ARE BASED ON THE MEM VOR. IS THIS LEGAL? SHOULD PLTS ACCEPT THIS CLRNC? WHY CAN'T A TEMPORARY VOR BE USED? ALSO IS IT LEGAL TO USE THE DME FOR XING RESTRICTIONS WHEN THE AZIMUTH PORTION IS IN OPERATION? IF THE VOR IS OUT ISN'T THE DME ALSO CONSIDERED DECOMMISSIONED? HOW COULD MOST PEOPLE GET THE IDENT?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier medium large transport complaint about being given clearance involving VOR that is notamed out of service.