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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : mkc|
airport : lwm
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 8000|
msl bound upper : 16500
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : mkc|
|Operator||general aviation : corporate|
|Make Model Name||Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Flight Phase||climbout : intermediate altitude|
|Route In Use||enroute : direct|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 89|
flight time total : 9167
flight time type : 1815
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 123|
flight time total : 4393
flight time type : 1192
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
We departed lwc VFR at XA50 local in 12/88. Conditions were VMC. I called mkc departure control on 120.5 to get our IFR clearance to teb. After clearing the lwc traffic pattern, we proceeded towards the mkc VORTAC, climbing VFR, transponder code 1200. I called departure 3 times with no response. On the fourth call I was told to standby. After a few mins passed I realized we were approaching the mkc TCA. I quickly grabbed the low level chart and noted the top of the mkc TCA was 8000' and instructed my first officer, who was flying, to increase his rate of climb to be out of 8000' as soon as possible. We were out of 8000' at the 23 DME fix of the mkc 232 degree right. I made note of this and wrote it down. I called mkc departure once again and was given a transponder code (1127) and told to remain VFR. At 10 DME and out O 16500' climbing we were issued our clearance to teb and instructed to climb to FL230. The second mkc ARTCC controller (135.0) instructed us to call the center when we arrived at teb 'for an apparent ATC violation.' then a short time later the controller called and said, 'the center did not need the information.' we have the entire departure on tape, and will keep it on file.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POSSIBLE PENETRATION TCA WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED LWC VFR AT XA50 LCL IN 12/88. CONDITIONS WERE VMC. I CALLED MKC DEP CTL ON 120.5 TO GET OUR IFR CLRNC TO TEB. AFTER CLRING THE LWC TFC PATTERN, WE PROCEEDED TOWARDS THE MKC VORTAC, CLBING VFR, TRANSPONDER CODE 1200. I CALLED DEP 3 TIMES WITH NO RESPONSE. ON THE FOURTH CALL I WAS TOLD TO STANDBY. AFTER A FEW MINS PASSED I REALIZED WE WERE APCHING THE MKC TCA. I QUICKLY GRABBED THE LOW LEVEL CHART AND NOTED THE TOP OF THE MKC TCA WAS 8000' AND INSTRUCTED MY F/O, WHO WAS FLYING, TO INCREASE HIS RATE OF CLB TO BE OUT OF 8000' ASAP. WE WERE OUT OF 8000' AT THE 23 DME FIX OF THE MKC 232 DEG R. I MADE NOTE OF THIS AND WROTE IT DOWN. I CALLED MKC DEP ONCE AGAIN AND WAS GIVEN A TRANSPONDER CODE (1127) AND TOLD TO REMAIN VFR. AT 10 DME AND OUT O 16500' CLBING WE WERE ISSUED OUR CLRNC TO TEB AND INSTRUCTED TO CLB TO FL230. THE SECOND MKC ARTCC CTLR (135.0) INSTRUCTED US TO CALL THE CENTER WHEN WE ARRIVED AT TEB 'FOR AN APPARENT ATC VIOLATION.' THEN A SHORT TIME LATER THE CTLR CALLED AND SAID, 'THE CENTER DID NOT NEED THE INFO.' WE HAVE THE ENTIRE DEP ON TAPE, AND WILL KEEP IT ON FILE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.