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ZMA controller voiced concern regarding working approach control airspace when training and familiarity on same is lacking.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 985266 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201112 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZMA.ARTCC |
| State Reference | FL |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Route In Use | None |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | Initial Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Enroute |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Nqx approach airspace went home early due to the holidays; so ZMA enroute was working the nqx approach airspace. I was the radar controller and my d-side released IFR aircraft through eyw tower. The d-side issued a clearance with more than 45 degrees divergence but with no time differential between the aircraft with eyw tower on the land line that I was not aware of at the time because I was handling r-side functions. When he told me he released the aircraft at the same time with degree divergence. I questioned what non-radar rule he applied in the clearance. He responded that it was 45 degrees but with no time in between. I informed him that he needed to apply a one or two minute non-radar application with the degree divergence. At the time both aircraft checked on and I believe separation was lost. I recommend more training for enroute controllers on radar approach procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZMA Controller voiced concern regarding working Approach Control airspace when training and familiarity on same is lacking.
Narrative: NQX Approach airspace went home early due to the holidays; so ZMA enroute was working the NQX Approach airspace. I was the RADAR Controller and my D-Side released IFR aircraft through EYW Tower. The D-Side issued a clearance with more than 45 degrees divergence but with no time differential between the aircraft with EYW Tower on the land line that I was not aware of at the time because I was handling R-Side functions. When he told me he released the aircraft at the same time with degree divergence. I questioned what non-RADAR rule he applied in the clearance. He responded that it was 45 degrees but with no time in between. I informed him that he needed to apply a one or two minute non-RADAR application with the degree divergence. At the time both aircraft checked on and I believe separation was lost. I recommend more training for enroute controllers on RADAR Approach procedures.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.