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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 98526 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198811 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : buf |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 21000 msl bound upper : 21000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : cvg |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 98526 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Given a clearance and read back--cross 95 NM southeast buf at 21000'. Next controller asks what our clearance was. I repeated as above. Then questioned the controller to find out why his concern. I asked if that was the clearance he understood? He said no. It was 90 southeast bus at 22000'. I advised we were given, and read back 95 southeast buf at 26000'. He said there is no problem. I don't believe there was any other traffic in the area. Problem/south--and it is happening every day. Reading back a clearance to a controller (or a frequency) does no good, because, even though you read it back wrong--it does not get caught.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLEARED FL220, THOUGHT CLEARED FL210.
Narrative: GIVEN A CLRNC AND READ BACK--CROSS 95 NM SE BUF AT 21000'. NEXT CTLR ASKS WHAT OUR CLRNC WAS. I REPEATED AS ABOVE. THEN QUESTIONED THE CTLR TO FIND OUT WHY HIS CONCERN. I ASKED IF THAT WAS THE CLRNC HE UNDERSTOOD? HE SAID NO. IT WAS 90 SE BUS AT 22000'. I ADVISED WE WERE GIVEN, AND READ BACK 95 SE BUF AT 26000'. HE SAID THERE IS NO PROBLEM. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS ANY OTHER TFC IN THE AREA. PROBLEM/S--AND IT IS HAPPENING EVERY DAY. READING BACK A CLRNC TO A CTLR (OR A FREQUENCY) DOES NO GOOD, BECAUSE, EVEN THOUGH YOU READ IT BACK WRONG--IT DOES NOT GET CAUGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.