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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : pbi|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 500|
msl bound upper : 500
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : pbi|
|Operator||general aviation : instructional|
|Make Model Name||Helicopter|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 200|
flight time total : 22000
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
Temporary prohibited area in effect for on pbi VOR 172 degree right 12 DME fix which is on coastline directly over a route helicopters are requested to fly. No advanced warning given. I realize that according to federal aviation regulation 91 it is pilot's responsibility to check for all NOTAMS before every flight, but if each time we called the FSS we would never get through. It is grossly unfair to the aviation community to expect every operator to know about such unusual restrictions on such short notice. Reporter states no anomaly really occurred as prohibited area did not become effective until after he flew through. No indication from any facility he contacted prior to or during initial flight. Later, after prohibited area became effective, all towers and TRACON were informing pilots. FSS is so poorly staffed that phones are often not answered. Trying to determine NOTAMS from them is a lost cause.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NO ANOMOLY OCCURRED.
Narrative: TEMPORARY PROHIBITED AREA IN EFFECT FOR ON PBI VOR 172 DEG R 12 DME FIX WHICH IS ON COASTLINE DIRECTLY OVER A ROUTE HELIS ARE REQUESTED TO FLY. NO ADVANCED WARNING GIVEN. I REALIZE THAT ACCORDING TO FEDERAL AVIATION REG 91 IT IS PLT'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CHK FOR ALL NOTAMS BEFORE EVERY FLT, BUT IF EACH TIME WE CALLED THE FSS WE WOULD NEVER GET THROUGH. IT IS GROSSLY UNFAIR TO THE AVIATION COMMUNITY TO EXPECT EVERY OPERATOR TO KNOW ABOUT SUCH UNUSUAL RESTRICTIONS ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE. RPTR STATES NO ANOMALY REALLY OCCURRED AS PROHIBITED AREA DID NOT BECOME EFFECTIVE UNTIL AFTER HE FLEW THROUGH. NO INDICATION FROM ANY FAC HE CONTACTED PRIOR TO OR DURING INITIAL FLT. LATER, AFTER PROHIBITED AREA BECAME EFFECTIVE, ALL TWRS AND TRACON WERE INFORMING PLTS. FSS IS SO POORLY STAFFED THAT PHONES ARE OFTEN NOT ANSWERED. TRYING TO DETERMINE NOTAMS FROM THEM IS A LOST CAUSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.