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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 978596 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201111 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | LAX.Airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Citation Excel (C560XL) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Route In Use | SID GORMAN FOUR |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Track / Heading All Types |
Narrative:
Tried to retrieve clearance on pre departure clearance; but did not work. Called clearance [delivery] and wrote down clearance. PIC reviewed the clearance; wrote it down; and verified. The autopilot was not working. [We] changed to north side of airport to takeoff [and] received clearance to takeoff on [runway] 24L. On climb out; ATC asked which departure we were on and we replied GMN4. ATC wanted us on costa 2. Costa 2 is an RNAV departure which requires verification from tower for the first point. We were only 'cleared for takeoff on 24L.' ATC then directed a turn to join the GMN4 departure per normal departure instructions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Fractional departure out of LAX was unable to secure PDC clearance. They obtained clearance from Clearance Delivery only to discover that ATC expected a RNAV SID in lieu of the conventional GMN4.
Narrative: Tried to retrieve clearance on PDC; but did not work. Called Clearance [Delivery] and wrote down clearance. PIC reviewed the clearance; wrote it down; and verified. The autopilot was not working. [We] changed to north side of airport to takeoff [and] received clearance to takeoff on [Runway] 24L. On climb out; ATC asked which departure we were on and we replied GMN4. ATC wanted us on COSTA 2. COSTA 2 is an RNAV departure which requires verification from Tower for the first point. We were only 'Cleared for takeoff on 24L.' ATC then directed a turn to join the GMN4 departure per normal departure instructions.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.