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A320 flight crew describes a conditional visual approach clearance that causes confusion and distraction during the back and forth with the controller over the speed assignment.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 977062 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201110 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | C90.TRACON |
| State Reference | IL |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Flying Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 250 Flight Crew Total 15000 Flight Crew Type 2800 |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 110 Flight Crew Total 6000 Flight Crew Type 1050 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Speed All Types |
Narrative:
Right downwind for 28 at 7000 and 210K. Cleared for visual 28 after slowing to 180. Began slowing to 180 while slowly descending on downwind. At about 6500 and 190; approach asked if we were at 180. First officer answered 'almost'. Approach replied 'you were cleared for the visual after slowing to 180'. The clearance was confusing. I did not hear that we had to slow to 180 before starting the descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 flight crew describes a conditional visual approach clearance that causes confusion and distraction during the back and forth with the Controller over the speed assignment.
Narrative: Right downwind for 28 at 7000 and 210K. Cleared for visual 28 after slowing to 180. Began slowing to 180 while slowly descending on downwind. At about 6500 and 190; approach asked if we were at 180. First Officer answered 'almost'. Approach replied 'you were cleared for the visual after slowing to 180'. The clearance was confusing. I did not hear that we had to slow to 180 before starting the descent.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.