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|Local Time Of Day||0601 To 1200|
|Locale Reference||airport : mia|
|Altitude||agl bound lower : 0|
agl bound upper : 0
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng|
|Navigation In Use||Other |
|Flight Phase||ground : preflight|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 110|
flight time total : 22000
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||observation : air carrier inspector|
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Anomaly||other anomaly other|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : anomaly accepted|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
After signing dispatch release in operations I arrived at the aircraft and I noticed a civilian in the galley. I went into the cockpit and saw flight case in the crew luggage area. I looked for the current log book and could not find it. I went in the galley area to observe the civilian who was looking through the aircraft log and asked to see it and asked who he was. He said he was an air carrier inspector and was going to fly with us. I asked to see some identify, which he showed me. I also asked if this was maintenance, flight or cabin inspection and he said he would do all. He became irritated with my inquiries and said he would call his supervisor because he thought I would not allow access to the jumpseat, which was ridiculous. His supervisor and another person came in the cockpit and said we should not get into a pissing contest when I told him I needed proper identify from anyone on the aircraft, especially in the cockpit. He also asked to see my license and medical. After I had shown both to him he said I would be receiving a letter. We departed 35 mins late due to fuel boost pump failure. Upon arrival in lax, after sitting in the cockpit for the entire 5 + 15, he said it was a nice flight and said he was attending a week long medium large transport maintenance conference. He also said that they (FAA) were doing ramp checks early morning and may have caused some of the irritation. I then said that may have caused their misunderstanding of me, since I was very cautious with identify checks. We agreed to notify our respective supervisors of our conversation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC OF ACR HVT HAS PROBLEMS WITH ACI DURING PREFLT INSPECTION.
Narrative: AFTER SIGNING DISPATCH RELEASE IN OPS I ARRIVED AT THE ACFT AND I NOTICED A CIVILIAN IN THE GALLEY. I WENT INTO THE COCKPIT AND SAW FLT CASE IN THE CREW LUGGAGE AREA. I LOOKED FOR THE CURRENT LOG BOOK AND COULD NOT FIND IT. I WENT IN THE GALLEY AREA TO OBSERVE THE CIVILIAN WHO WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE ACFT LOG AND ASKED TO SEE IT AND ASKED WHO HE WAS. HE SAID HE WAS AN ACR INSPECTOR AND WAS GOING TO FLY WITH US. I ASKED TO SEE SOME IDENT, WHICH HE SHOWED ME. I ALSO ASKED IF THIS WAS MAINT, FLT OR CABIN INSPECTION AND HE SAID HE WOULD DO ALL. HE BECAME IRRITATED WITH MY INQUIRIES AND SAID HE WOULD CALL HIS SUPVR BECAUSE HE THOUGHT I WOULD NOT ALLOW ACCESS TO THE JUMPSEAT, WHICH WAS RIDICULOUS. HIS SUPVR AND ANOTHER PERSON CAME IN THE COCKPIT AND SAID WE SHOULD NOT GET INTO A PISSING CONTEST WHEN I TOLD HIM I NEEDED PROPER IDENT FROM ANYONE ON THE ACFT, ESPECIALLY IN THE COCKPIT. HE ALSO ASKED TO SEE MY LICENSE AND MEDICAL. AFTER I HAD SHOWN BOTH TO HIM HE SAID I WOULD BE RECEIVING A LETTER. WE DEPARTED 35 MINS LATE DUE TO FUEL BOOST PUMP FAILURE. UPON ARR IN LAX, AFTER SITTING IN THE COCKPIT FOR THE ENTIRE 5 + 15, HE SAID IT WAS A NICE FLT AND SAID HE WAS ATTENDING A WEEK LONG MLG MAINT CONFERENCE. HE ALSO SAID THAT THEY (FAA) WERE DOING RAMP CHKS EARLY MORNING AND MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME OF THE IRRITATION. I THEN SAID THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED THEIR MISUNDERSTANDING OF ME, SINCE I WAS VERY CAUTIOUS WITH IDENT CHKS. WE AGREED TO NOTIFY OUR RESPECTIVE SUPVRS OF OUR CONVERSATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.