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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : smo|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 4000|
msl bound upper : 4500
|Controlling Facilities||tracon : lax|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : instrument|
pilot : cfi
pilot : commercial
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 42|
flight time total : 2800
flight time type : 1200
|Anomaly||altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude|
non adherence : published procedure
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : detected after the fact|
|Consequence||faa : reviewed incident with flight crew|
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Pilot Deviation|
|ATC Facility||procedure or policy : unspecified|
I picked up a pas at ramona, ca and within an hour proceeded northwest on V25 flight plan to bakersfield. Off el toro there was a biplane doing aerobatics at my level, 4500' (there were 2 going southeast). I requested radar flight following from 132.7. Since I requested the sfra to go over lax I was not handed off to any approach control frequency. I monitored 122.75 also 132.7. This was my first time over the lax airport since changes had been made. Normally I would file instrument to go into the southern area. I believe where problem of concern was heading northwest, I did find myself at 4000' (should have been at 4500'). Since it was a few mins to dark west/O knowing the concern it would cause at radar station (using code 1201), I started to reset my altimeter encoder to proper altitude to clear mountains to the north of which outline was in question as well to prepare for en route to bakersfield. I was directed to call TRACON from bakersfield of which I did. To my enlightenment, I found out the sfra (122.75) is not even monitored by lax of which for some reason I thought it was. Nowhere after looking ATC clearance did I find 122.75 was not being monitored in flight rule (pilot to pilot only). I monitored 122.75 also 134.2 burbank approach. After stating leaving la corridor, called burbank approach to proceed north, still listening to 122.75). Two things I certainly learned. 122.75 was not monitored of which in my view should be. 'There is no control (safety) where there is no communication.' from 3000-5000' 134.9 should be implemented over lax airport as well as the shoreline and the hollywood park route. Over the lax airport is too serious of a problem just to leave it to pilots alone. Also, I need to know who is beside me at the extreme (northwest/southeast) end of a converging point. Otherwise, I certainly would have monitored 134.9 as well as 122.75.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA ENTERED SVFR CORRIDOR OF LAX TCA AT WRONG ALT. ALSO COMPLAINED ABOUT RADIO PROC IN CORRIDOR.
Narrative: I PICKED UP A PAS AT RAMONA, CA AND WITHIN AN HR PROCEEDED NW ON V25 FLT PLAN TO BAKERSFIELD. OFF EL TORO THERE WAS A BIPLANE DOING AEROBATICS AT MY LEVEL, 4500' (THERE WERE 2 GOING SE). I REQUESTED RADAR FLT FOLLOWING FROM 132.7. SINCE I REQUESTED THE SFRA TO GO OVER LAX I WAS NOT HANDED OFF TO ANY APCH CTL FREQ. I MONITORED 122.75 ALSO 132.7. THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME OVER THE LAX ARPT SINCE CHANGES HAD BEEN MADE. NORMALLY I WOULD FILE INSTRUMENT TO GO INTO THE SOUTHERN AREA. I BELIEVE WHERE PROB OF CONCERN WAS HDG NW, I DID FIND MYSELF AT 4000' (SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 4500'). SINCE IT WAS A FEW MINS TO DARK W/O KNOWING THE CONCERN IT WOULD CAUSE AT RADAR STATION (USING CODE 1201), I STARTED TO RESET MY ALTIMETER ENCODER TO PROPER ALT TO CLR MOUNTAINS TO THE N OF WHICH OUTLINE WAS IN QUESTION AS WELL TO PREPARE FOR ENRTE TO BAKERSFIELD. I WAS DIRECTED TO CALL TRACON FROM BAKERSFIELD OF WHICH I DID. TO MY ENLIGHTENMENT, I FOUND OUT THE SFRA (122.75) IS NOT EVEN MONITORED BY LAX OF WHICH FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS. NOWHERE AFTER LOOKING ATC CLRNC DID I FIND 122.75 WAS NOT BEING MONITORED IN FLT RULE (PLT TO PLT ONLY). I MONITORED 122.75 ALSO 134.2 BURBANK APCH. AFTER STATING LEAVING LA CORRIDOR, CALLED BURBANK APCH TO PROCEED N, STILL LISTENING TO 122.75). TWO THINGS I CERTAINLY LEARNED. 122.75 WAS NOT MONITORED OF WHICH IN MY VIEW SHOULD BE. 'THERE IS NO CONTROL (SAFETY) WHERE THERE IS NO COM.' FROM 3000-5000' 134.9 SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTED OVER LAX ARPT AS WELL AS THE SHORELINE AND THE HOLLYWOOD PARK ROUTE. OVER THE LAX ARPT IS TOO SERIOUS OF A PROB JUST TO LEAVE IT TO PLTS ALONE. ALSO, I NEED TO KNOW WHO IS BESIDE ME AT THE EXTREME (NW/SE) END OF A CONVERGING POINT. OTHERWISE, I CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE MONITORED 134.9 AS WELL AS 122.75.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.